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KevinLesko Posted - 01/19/2002 : 3:19:43 PM
uhhhhhhhh I honostly don't know what the hell is going on here... I tend not to read the really long posts, so I never read the whole "God" post (it seems like that has something to do with it). But it certainly is disparaging to wake up one morning, log on and find that this tightly knit group of FRIENDS has gone to pieces... I guess I have some reading to do to try to figure out what's going on.

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Fluffy Posted - 01/21/2002 : 06:44:53 AM
Teri Said:
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From what I can tell, Fluffy has been trying to explain his position regarding the American Indian experience to Isaac. It is a subject Fluffy is VERY passionate about, so when Isaac started out being flippant and silly (as is the standard on this message board) Fluffy started getting frustrated. It started from there and just got worse.
You are so close to the mark here. The only part that is incorrect is that I was trying to make Isaac aware of the injustices that our government can be prone to. I was just using the Indians as an example(1 of many I used)because it is a subject I know alot about, and as you have pointed out, am very passionate about. The rest is RIGHT on the mark. I think you among everyone here are more understanding of that outburst since you have witnessed many from me all thru my life. Teri Said:
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I think the final straw for Fluffy was when Fluffy interpreted Isaacs comments as a personal attack on his integrity/character. I don't know if that's what Isaac intended, however.
Indeed it was. As Teri can attest, having these parts of my character attacked can really set me off. I once attacked(physically) a total stranger on the street who called me a liar. Police involved, it was ugly. It is not something I am proud of, I just offer it up as an example of how I can lose my kewl when my character is attacked. It is really the only thing I have going for me and it is the one thing I am sure of. MYSELF. You better have some facts to back it up when you call me those kinds of names. The only way to explain it any clearer is Lets say someone calls ME an ASSHOLE. Well they may be right, that is their opinion of me and they are entitled to it. I could care less if they think I am an asshole it is unfortunate they feel that way, but it is THEIR opinion. Now if you call me a LIAR, that is not their opinion, that is a personal attack on my character and I WILL NOT stand for it. And incase I have not made it clear already, I do not think it is childish to defend attacks on my character, but my response to Isaacs attacks on my character were childish. Very childish. Again I apologize to everyone for my childish response to what I feel was a SERIOUS attack on me.
Jay Said:
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my parents are teh type that wants you to do exactly what they want you to...they think tha me wearing thrift store stuff is stupid, but mostly becasue of my young age they try to sway me more into the ways of most kids in today's society...I'm in the butt of things here in C(hard-on) Ohio, which is why i want Fluffy back...he's so good at making me laugh and giving good points, makes me forget my troubles with everyhting...the whole thing's a mess...
Keep being yourself Jay!! I think it is an admirable trait. Don't worry about what others think of the way you dress or what you believe. Be your own person. I really respect individuality. I grew up in a time when it was very very hard to be an individual. I am sure it has helped to make me who I am today. Which is an outlandishly dressed, speaking my mind, thinking for myself, questioning all, pain in the ass, thorn in the side of the straight world. I am happy to hear that I can make you laugh and open your eyes to some new ideas. I know how it feels to be ALONE in a place, feeling like noone understands you. There are others out there. I am one of them. One of those shunned by the world and looked down upon as strange. The only reason they feel this way is because we don't fit into THEIR way of looking or feeling about things. They don't seem to understand that to people like us, THEY are STRANGE, with their desire to fit in and not be the individual they could be. I actually feel sorry for them. Unfortunately we are in the minority so it will probably stay this way. Be content in the fact that you are not STRANGE, you are an individual. You only appear strange to them because you don't fit into their way of thinking. This is not a bad thing. Keep being yourself!!!! Oh, and I also agree, this whole thing is a mess. I talked to my sis about it for like 2 hrs on the phone the other night and it seems I have ruined everything for all involved. Again I am sorry for that. Wish I could go back in time and make it all like it used to be.

Oh and I see you are from Latvia today. I used to date a girl from Latvia. What a coincedence, maybe you know her. HEHE

Liz K Said:
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Ok Teri, let me guess. Did Fluffy dye his hair purple?
Actually Liz, I never did do purple for any long term. At the time they only made purple dye that was temporary. I have run the gambit of colors though. I was green(my other favorite color), red, blonde, white, orange, and of course BLACK. Black was something I did as a response to everyone always saying my hair was black. I would rush home and dye it black and then everyone would say "What did you do to your hair?" and I would reply "I dyed it Black, if it was black b4, you wouldn't have noticed a difference." I loved fucking with people like that. I will go to extreme lengths to prove my point and show that I am right when I KNOW I am. That is not to say that I am always right, but when I am, watch out. Just so ya know, my hair is dark brown. HEHE Although I have thought of dying it brite orange like Milla's in the movie "The Fifth Element". It looks so kewl.

Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy
LizT Posted - 01/21/2002 : 12:02:29 AM
Ok Teri, let me guess. Did Fluffy dye his hair purple?

Jay, stay sweet!

tericee Posted - 01/20/2002 : 11:59:16 PM
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I think we should all have a party and then we'll really get to know each other...



Every Tim show is the party where we have the opportunity to meet each other! Granted, Fluffy gets to meet more people since he's at EVERY show.

teri

Did I mention that I finished a marathon?
dan p. Posted - 01/20/2002 : 11:00:33 PM
i'd get a pic, but you'd turn to stone. wait....let me get a pic.

when you think about it, mud is just wet dirt.
pcbTIM Posted - 01/20/2002 : 10:50:04 PM
Latvia?! Looks like someone can't hold a steady job!

I think we should all have a party and then we'll really get to know each other and we'd be able to picture a face with the postee (I'd put a pic of me, but I am almost clueless wen it comes to PCs).

"War does not determine who is right, it determines who is left."
"Why would you even shake a man's hand if you're not going to help him stand."
Jay Posted - 01/20/2002 : 8:25:11 PM
my parents are teh type that wants you to do exactly what they want you to...they think tha me wearing thrift store stuff is stupid, but mostly becasue of my young age they try to sway me more into the ways of most kids in today's society...I'm in the butt of things here in C(hard-on) Ohio, which is why i want Fluffy back...he's so good at making me laugh and giving good points, makes me forget my troubles with everyhting...the whole thing's a mess...oh well I'm jsut happy yall are still here, i considder all of you some of my closest friends, it really is amazing how much we can talk aboot, and we are so far away from each other, it's like family, so i'll say it now, and i'll say it again, i love everyone of you on the board, yall are my friends...let's just hope he comes back and comes back cheerful and smiling...Peace yall, and have a nice night

Jay
My last name is confusing...It is Spelled Wiegand but is pronounced Weegend...another insult to the English language...
tericee Posted - 01/20/2002 : 7:19:32 PM
They're very quick to give advice, but they know we'll do what we want. They're amazingly supportive.

teri

Did I mention that I finished a marathon?
Saint Jude Posted - 01/20/2002 : 3:47:42 PM
Aw rasberries.

Patriotism is a maggot in their heads. - Henry D. Thoreau
tericee Posted - 01/20/2002 : 3:47:18 PM
I could try, but I think my parents gave up on telling us what to do the first time Fluffy died his hair back in the punk days.

teri

Did I mention that I finished a marathon?
Saint Jude Posted - 01/20/2002 : 3:40:45 PM
Teri call your mother and tell her to make fluffy come back.

Your his sister after all, come one

Patriotism is a maggot in their heads. - Henry D. Thoreau
pcbTIM Posted - 01/20/2002 : 01:36:06 AM
oh.

"War does not determine who is right, it determines who is left."
"Why would you even shake a man's hand if you're not going to help him stand."
tericee Posted - 01/20/2002 : 01:01:21 AM
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uhhhhhhhh I honostly don't know what the hell is going on here... I tend not to read the really long posts, so I never read the whole "God" post (it seems like that has something to do with it). But it certainly is disparaging to wake up one morning, log on and find that this tightly knit group of FRIENDS has gone to pieces... I guess I have some reading to do to try to figure out what's going on.



I just did the reading. From what I can tell, Fluffy has been trying to explain his position regarding the American Indian experience to Isaac. It is a subject Fluffy is VERY passionate about, so when Isaac started out being flippant and silly (as is the standard on this message board) Fluffy started getting frustrated. It started from there and just got worse.

I think the final straw for Fluffy was when Fluffy interpreted Isaacs comments as a personal attack on his integrity/character. I don't know if that's what Isaac intended, however.

Fluffy has apologized a few times in various posts to Isaac for specific things he said, and in other posts to the rest of us for being generally annoying due to his "bitchy" (my word, not Fluffy's) moments. Hopefully that means, things are on the mend...

That's my take.

teri

Did I mention that I finished a marathon?
pcbTIM Posted - 01/19/2002 : 10:01:48 PM
Dammit! There's a waste of an hour!

"War does not determine who is right, it determines who is left."
"Why would you even shake a man's hand if you're not going to help him stand."
{=HTG=} Posted - 01/19/2002 : 5:12:46 PM
No, thats 'bout it.

pcbTIM Posted - 01/19/2002 : 4:05:18 PM
So...HTG...is your guy gonna swing or what?! I've been staring at it for an hour......and NOTHING!

"War does not determine who is right, it determines who is left."
"Why would you even shake a man's hand if you're not going to help him stand."
{=HTG=} Posted - 01/19/2002 : 3:35:18 PM
Same with me KevinLesko. But I'd rather just sit out of it.


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