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| rubylith |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 07:04:49 AM
Comment: This has MI5 written all over it. Just watch that national ID card legislation sail through. Only 15% of the country supported the government after the last election, this will ensure total fealty to a smarmy Blair and whatever he wants to do. The police state measures they'll get out of this will be overlayed onto all forms of transport. In fact, you won't be able to travel without the ID card. Although MI5 operations are normally more sophisticated than things like 9/11, in that the evidence linking it to the government is more carefully covered, just watch for the evidence of inside involvement to trickle out. MI5 have been caught involved in IRA bomings multiple times over.
prisonplanet.com predicted they'd attack the underground. Reports surfaced last year that the tube would be occasionally closed, providing the perfect opportunity for bombs to be placed, as happened with the WTC.
An explosion has "ripped a bus apart" just minutes after a number of blasts on London's Underground.
Witness Belinda Seabrook said she saw an explosion rip though a bus as it approached Russell Square.
"I was on the bus in front and heard an incredible bang. I turned round and half the double decker bus was in the air," she said.
Scotland Yard could not confirm reports of an explosion on a bus in Russell Square. A spokeswoman said police were at the scene and attempting to determine what had happened.
The entire Tube network has been shut down following the blasts at Aldgate, Edgware Road, King's Cross, Old Street and Russell Square.
It is understood several people have been wounded in the underground blasts, with one unconfirmedeyewitness telling Sky News he saw "bodies on the line".
British Transport Police confirmed there are "walking wounded" and said paramedics have responded to one report of a person classed as "life at risk".
"It's chaos, with people trying to work out what has happened," said a spokesman.
One witness said the packed underground train he was on was 200 metres from King's Cross when there was a huge flash.
The train stopped and people were using umberellas to smash windows of the trains. Passengers were led out of the train by underground staff.
He added people were milling around King's Cross covered in soot.
Clare Benson, 33, a city banker from Kensington, was on a tube at Edware Road where the second incident took place.
"I was in the last carriage at the back of the train nearest the tunnel when I heard a huge bang - you could feel it," she said.
"The lights went off for a couple of minutes and people were scared and wondering what to do.
"The drivers got out and were looking into the tunnel, then they announced that we should evacuate. My ears are still ringing and I was shaking."
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| rubylith |
Posted - 07/13/2005 : 2:57:57 PM
they have everything to gain.
total control
yea Ill keep posting.
Problem, Reaction, Solution. |
| Zachmozach |
Posted - 07/13/2005 : 2:53:07 PM
Right. There are some questionable things going on. It's basically the same with all terrorist attacks for the last 25 years+. I think it would be amazing if you could find terrorists without some sort of tie into the governments of the world, but to say that the government was behind something requires more than a few questionable things. I just think it's a good idea to question a source who says the government is behind it without any actual proof and report it like it's got to be true. I think it should be done in a little more editorial manner the like of I think this is what's really happening and here's why I think so... list of facts etc. It should be posed as a question of could the government be behind this and what do they have to gain. I just find it somewhat irresponsible to state the government is behind it until they have a stronger case. Until then it really is just speculation and should be looked at as such no matter how interesting. It's the only way to keep from being burnt on it. Keep posting more info if you get it though as I'm interested to see if they can link this to the government. |
| rubylith |
Posted - 07/13/2005 : 1:35:24 PM
also want to say I am not tryign to get anyone angry with me by posting this.
it is something that needs to be spread via word of mouth. Certainly the corporate mainstrean news will not tell you the truth.
Please read it if you'd like. |
| rubylith |
Posted - 07/13/2005 : 1:28:13 PM
Not to mention who stood to gain.
I also believe the "terrorist" wa sthe same terrorist who blew himself up in Madrid, AND there is a report the police snipered and killed him.
SO he can die 3 times? |
| rubylith |
Posted - 07/13/2005 : 1:26:41 PM
They actually have a large list of questionable facts.
-Same day drills at the same time and same places
-misquoted quarn
-bombings were just "electrical failure" for the first hour and ahalf.
-netanyayo (forgot spelling) was warned
-then they said he wasnt warned until minutes after the first bombing.
-It wasnt reported that it was a "bombing" until an hour and a half later.
-First bombs went off a half hour from each other, then the media now says seconds apart
-website was whois'ed and linked the server to a server called EVeryone's Server located in Houston Texas that has relations with Bush's sister in law.
All of these are FACTs but yet MSNBC won;t touch it.
Not to mention Blari rejected any inquiry into an investigation.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!? |
| Zachmozach |
Posted - 07/13/2005 : 1:18:05 PM
I really don't think there is enough evidence yet to say that the government was behind the attacks. It should be probed, but I don't think at this time we can say that the government did it. They have no evidence of evidence planting, and so far none of government involvement of the attacks. So far all I've seen from prison planet is speculation that seems to be stated as fact that the government did it. I think that if they expect to be taken seriously as journalists or whatever they should first build a case and build strong evidence to support their case. Compared to what they have been able to show about the 911 attacks they have nothing. I know not much time has passed since the attacks so there hasn't been enough time to build a really strong case, but that's why you wait before just claiming the government did it. They really need more evidence to convince me.
Also I find that from what I've seen of London's reaction and that it has worked in an equalibrium type of way that it has lit a fire under the people against the war that this is further proof we need to get out of Iraq and that for people who support the war on terror stuff that we need to stay the course and all that. I don't think it will have the effect of the 911 attack here had where they could throw patriotic BS at everyone and get them behind dropping bombs from 30,000 feet. Of course the US already had the advantage of having people in the adminstration having called for a new pearl harbor so they could enact their agendas so it's obvious that they had thought about how to use such an event prior to the event and thus enacted a good plan. Support for Blair may go up a little, but I doubt we see a sky rocket thing happen with his aprroval rating like Bush saw. Anyway I'm open to investigating that the British government was behind it, but I'd like to see more evidence before I support such a claim. |
| rubylith |
Posted - 07/13/2005 : 12:26:50 PM
How the Government Staged the London Bombings in Ten Easy Steps
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/130705teneasysteps.htm
Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | July 13 2005
Ten Step Method To Staging a Terrorist Attack
1) Hire a Crisis Management firm to set up an exercise that parallels the terrorist attack you are going to carry out. Have them run the exercise at the precise locations and at the very same time as the attack. If at any stage of the attack your Arabs get caught, tell the police it was part of an exercise.
2) Hire four Arabs and tell them they're taking part in an important exercise to help defend London from terrorist attacks. Strap them with rucksacks filled with deadly explosives. Tell the Arabs the rucksacks are dummy explosives and wouldn't harm a fly.
3) Tell four Arabs to meet up at London Underground and disperse, each getting on a different train. Make sure Arabs meet in a location where you can get a good mug shot of them all on CCTV which you can later endlessly repeat to drooling masses on television.
4) While four Arabs are in London, plant explosives in their houses in Leeds. Plant some explosives in one of their cars in Luton for the police to later discover. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics on this one.
5) Before the bombings take place, make sure you warn any of your buddies who are scheduled to be anywhere near where the bombs go off. If this gets leaked to the press, just deny it.
6) 4th Arab goes out partying in London night before and ends up getting out of bed late. No worries, the 9/11 'hijackers' did the same thing but that didn't cause us a big problem. 4th Arab catches bus to see if other Arabs are waiting for him. 4th Arab starts hearing about explosions in the London Underground. 4th Arab comes to the realization that this he is being set up and freaks out. 4th Arab starts fiddling in his rucksack. 4th Arab sets bomb off and is blown up.
If you hired any additional Arabs and they also got wind of the set up, make sure tere are GPS locators in the rucksacks so you can have police snipers ready to kill them before they can blow the whistle.
7) After the bombs go off, put out a story for over an hour that the explosions are a simple electrical fault. This gives you cover time to make sure the lazy bus Arab is dead and any other hired Arabs who reneged are also dead. Make sure any CCTV footage that doesn't support your official story is either seized or destroyed.
8) A few hours after the bombings, have one of your boys post an 'Al-Qaeda statement' claiming responsibility. Don't worry about the whole 'misreferencing the Qu'ran' thing, these idiots don't have the attention spans to figure it out.
9) After you have made sure that all the Arabs are dead and you are managing the story accordingly, wait for four days until the police piece together the story and find the explosives you planted in Leeds and in the car in Luton. Remember that Qu'ran and flight manual in the hijackers' car? Ha ha, they fell for that one hook, line and sinker. No need to change tactics this time either. The time delay will convince the gullible public that a real investigation is taking place. Create a background of the hired Arabs being militant Muslims. The drooling masses, as was the case with the '9/11 hijackers,' will ignore stories of neighbours saying they were the quiet, educated types who liked children and playing sports.
BBC excerpt: One local resident described him as "a nice lad".
"He liked to play football, he liked to play cricket. I'm shocked."
Another resident said he was just a "normal kid" who played basketball and kicked a ball around.
10) Sit back and enjoy as Blair and his minions grandstand in front of television cameras about staying the course in the war on terror. The pay raise, extra agency funding, and power to strip more freedoms and liberties made the ten easy steps to staging a terrorist attack a worthwhile venture. The dozens of dead people were necessary collateral damage. This is a dirty war, we need to be less moral than the terrorists to defeat them.
And that's how the government staged the bombings in ten easy steps.
Granted, you can interchange different pieces of the puzzle. The bombers could be real terrorists that knew exactly what they were doing. All you would need to do is control the 'mastermind' behind the attack and make sure his boys carried out the job in the way you wanted. Voila.
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| Kazi |
Posted - 07/11/2005 : 5:02:07 PM
"I hate fucking guard dogs...SHeeet, SHeeet! Fucking guard dogs."
--Le mole |
| Zachmozach |
Posted - 07/11/2005 : 1:59:21 PM
Ah ok. I've done the same thing myself more then once where I forget that sarcasm is hard to pick up on the message board. |
| Kenneth |
Posted - 07/11/2005 : 11:09:52 AM
I'm sorry. I thought you could pick up on the sarcasm from that post. I do support peace. It's a good thing. And I do look at it as killing people in general; not just Iragi's or American's or whatever the case may be.
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| dan p. |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 9:48:37 PM
i'd like to point out at no one knows what they would do if some loved one was murdered, so take that all talk and throw it right out the window. when it happens, then tell us "what you would do."
this whole conversation otherwise is getting a little over my ill-informed head, so i think at this point i'll just bow out and let you folks have at it. although i'd like to add one more thing. killing my not be the way to fix what's going on now, but there's already the blood on our hands. what else can we do? it might be that we've set things in motion that cannot be stopped as far as killing is concerned. |
| Zachmozach |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 6:34:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kenneth
That kind of thinking is exactly how the terrorists think. I tend to differ a little on that. If someone killed my family I would go after those people directly involved. Not just some one who lived in their area or country. I don’t see any point in that. That’s what terrorists do; kill innocent people. But if I wanted to go after everyone, even those not involved then we should kill more than 10,000 Iraqi’s. We should kill all of them if that’s the case. Let’s just kill everyone over there and everyone from Afghanistan and everyone from every other country who has ever killed an American. Maybe we should think like the terrorists do. Let’s break out the nukes and have a real jihad. If we try maybe we could end the world today. I know I sure could use a break.
I swear like a couple of posts ago you said you supported peace? WTF?
I don't know what your view on terrorism is, but the US government has been one of the largest state sponsers of terrorism for over a hunrdred years. I wish you would consider looking at it as not killing Iraqi's or American's, but as killing people in general. I would support any actions against terrorists that the US goverment took that would do anything to stop the problem, but unfortunately that's really not what the US is concerned with. You can't say that you are against terrorism when you have commited such war crimes as funding the death squads in Nicaragua or giving weapons to Saddam, or supplying weapons to Indonesia when they are commiting genocide in East Timor, and especially training them in our on back yard.
Then you talk about Saddam and Castro (the great satans) like the US acts any other way. With absolutely no proof, almost no support from the rest of the world they declared they were going to invade Iraq in an ileagal war which of course has done little for the people of that country other than killing people. Even before that though the people of the country were having a war declared on them through sanctions. If you think that sanctions really had that much of an effect on the ruling class of the country check into it. It didn't. However it did give Iraq the highest infant mortality rate in the world. My basic point is don't talk about terrorists when you're not willing to say who created them and that the US has done more damage then any terrorist group. State sponsered terrorism is way bigger. We are killed a bunch of innocent Afghanistan people and the Taliban killed a bunch of americans or whatever and killing more people is not going solve a damn thing. Neither is throwing your support behind the elite ruling class so they can "protect us". |
| Kazi |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 3:16:21 PM
"I attended Yardale where I achieved a 4.0 grade point average" |
| rubylith |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 2:13:16 PM
here you go:
http://www.news10.net/storyfull10.asp?id=11889
"Montana Police Have to Stop One Vehicle an Hour"
from associated press |
| Kazi |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 1:31:22 PM
"I wish that I was political and stuff--I wish I could be political too"
--Kyle from SouthPark --Bigger, longer and uncut |
| rubylith |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 1:13:21 PM
thats the neo-con attitude.
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| Kenneth |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 12:11:02 PM
That kind of thinking is exactly how the terrorists think. I tend to differ a little on that. If someone killed my family I would go after those people directly involved. Not just some one who lived in their area or country. I don’t see any point in that. That’s what terrorists do; kill innocent people. But if I wanted to go after everyone, even those not involved then we should kill more than 10,000 Iraqi’s. We should kill all of them if that’s the case. Let’s just kill everyone over there and everyone from Afghanistan and everyone from every other country who has ever killed an American. Maybe we should think like the terrorists do. Let’s break out the nukes and have a real jihad. If we try maybe we could end the world today. I know I sure could use a break. |
| rubylith |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 11:06:22 AM
we have made them that way, not to mention we created and funded al-ciada from the beginning.
i always thought, if someone came to my country, killed my family i would definetly blow myself up to try and hurt anyone from their country. seeing your family and friends die makes you do some crazy things.
we have killed 10,000 iraqi civillians so far, how many terrorists did that spawn? |
| Kenneth |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 10:54:27 AM
He is a puppet. But what President in a democracy isn’t a puppet? What choice do they have? I mean, the people who are supposedly the experts in the intelligence field or whatever the case may be are the ones who brief the President and tell him what’s going on or not going on. Seems like he would have to listen to and take into account what those people are telling him because what is he going to say? You’re wrong! I sit in the White House all day and I think this is what’s happening? So the President is a puppet because he has to rely on so many other sources for information. Obviously some of that info turns out wrong or misleading. So I don’t deny there has never been a conspiracy in this country. I’m certain there has been. But some of the theories are a pretty big stretch in my opinion.
On the other side, people like Saddam or Castro aren’t puppets. It’s their way or you get your balls cut off, along with your head. I’ll take a democracy with a puppet for a President rather than a ruthless dictator any day. We still have it pretty good here, at least I do. The problem though is with the terrorists, not America. That’s where I take issue. It’s not America’s fault that an insane cult of people wants to murder and destroy countries who don’t share their beliefs. I’m certain there is no god who would call for that and they can shove their jihad up their ass. No one has done anything worthy to bring on an onslaught of bombs on innocent people who have nothing to do with any of it besides where they live and what they may or may not believe. It’s ludicrous.
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| rubylith |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 09:49:06 AM
i dont think hes a dumbass...he is a puppet.
there are people doing things that we dont even know what they look like or their names.
thats is why I have a problem with michael moore, he white washed the whole thing and people think bush is some dumb elf...then they hype up the stories like bush chokin on a pretzel and falling off his bike and having horrible pronouncation.
who knows whats going on....I know what I believe based off of the evidence I have seen.
people will never know what happened to JFK, and they will never know what happened on 9/11. As far as Im concerned the only conspiracy theory of 9/11 is the official story. |
| Kenneth |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 09:28:22 AM
I don't know PJK. I support those things as well, moslty. I consider myself more toward the middle rather than the left or right. I see good points from both sides it just doesn't seem like either side is willing to give an inch in order to get anything worth while done.
And about the conspiracies; I know we've had our share. I realize that but show me a country who hasn't. As long as people are in charge then things have the potential to become shady. Some things that have been posted about supposed conspiracies are just so far out there that it's laughable. If Bush is such a dumb ass how did he ever pull off the 911 conspiracy? I think people are giving him and his boys way too much credit. |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 08:35:45 AM
No doubt. The kid's eating powdered milk for dinner.  |
| rubylith |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 08:20:58 AM
hey,
im glad we are cool on that. Hopeful Rolling Waves def knows that if I give money I definetly care because my ass is broke....
getting back to my "conspiracy" theory...
This is interesting
June 7th, 2005 - MI5 downgrades terror threat to UK businesses
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/1215b096-d789-11d9-9f43-00000e2511c8.html
Four-day closures on Tube
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/9905138?source=Evening%20Standard
This Real One interview is good too:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/events04/uk/security/nb_presser16mar.ram |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 07:46:44 AM
Love is in everything, just not on everything. That sucks. |
| dan p. |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 12:44:07 AM
well, you can't really "stop death." i know what you mean, and i'm not ripping on you, but you can stop some things that cause it, maybe, but that's it. that reminds of some thing i saw on a magazine that said "the pill that prevents aging." and i thought. "wow, it actually stops time. how remarkable."
you also said new york is under police state. now, i live in the state new york, and i gotta say, it doesn't seem like police state. it's just the same as it always is. if you were talking about nyc, then i don't know. i don't live there, and it's entirely possible. but as far as i can see in upstate ny, at the capital, no police state.
you probably know more about what the MI5 has done better than me, but their history isn't direct evidence in this case. and really, when even suggesting something like that bears a certain amount of real evidence. it's possible, yeah. i'm not denying that, but the comment at the top of your first post smacks of certainty when really all it is speculation. i guess that's what bothered me, too.
it wasn't that you came off snide, but was more like a perverse eagerness to use it as an attack against a government, treating it as an opportunity instead of a tragedy. that's what set me off. but, you know, now it's clear that that isn't the case, so ok. |
| rubylith |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 10:27:54 PM
hey
sorry if I came off as snide.
I actually donated $100 to the London Red Cross. You can too by visitng http://www.redcross.org.uk or calling U.S. State Department at (888) 407-4747 for more information.
Im not sure it was the english government, but what I am sure of is history, and what the MI5 has been involved in.
I apologize if I offended anyone. And no, there is no need for a "tin foil hat".
Nor am I left leaning, sure I believe in somethings that are left leaning, but I am also conservative, for guns, and other things for the "right".
Don't you think people are a little more then one side or another?
What disdurbs me is a police state. The fact that we are losing our liberties in the name of freedom. it is a very touchy subject.
If you wanted to stop death, why not make cars illegal?
Terrorist attacks represent .5% of all atrocities in the world. For some reason it hits a nerve with people where they are willing to give up every right to ensure that they won;t be attacked again, because some Al-CIAda guy had something to do with it.
And they keep mentioning that AL-CIAda had something to do with it because someone said they did on the website. If you look closely, they misquoted the Quran. I highly doubt any extermist muslim would do that.
And I doubt we will ever hear about the Downing Street Memo again.
I'll end this post with my favorite quote by Benjamin Franklin:
"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety." |
| Zachmozach |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 9:22:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.
if i sound angry, it's because i am. i'm sick of the finger pointing on all sides. i'm sick of the fear. and i'm sick of the bombings and death. i never thought i'd get sick of explosions, but there it is.
Well that pretty much sums it up for me too, because there is so much finger pointing and wings and so on that it's become a stupid vicious circle that never ends up with anything being done. People have now become so confused that no one knows what they should do or if they should do anything at all, myself included.
For me I see a world of chaos, with literally about 10% of the population or less basically making life incredibly hard for the other poorer classes. Building bombs, tanks, jets, missles, and wars, and getting rich from the people they kill and the resources they can steal. It's been going on for the last couple of thousand years only now it's worldwide. Now it's not just the "Rich People's" fault it's all of our faults for letting this stuff go on. For letting our government for so many years declare war all over the world, mostly covert and economic, but also the mass killing type of war too. I don't know who's responsible for this or 911 or most of the terrorist attacks that have happened over the last ten years, but I know I want it ended and the only way to do that I think is to begin to think in a new way and be the change you want to see in society. I think we all pretty much agree we could use a new vision, and it's about time we enacted it. |
| PJK |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 6:45:52 PM
Touche Kenneth! LOL Gotta watch those sandwiches!
Does caring about the environment, natural resources, alternative fuel capabilities, equal rights (and that means for gay citizens too), health care for everyone, and promoting PEACE not war make me far left wing? If so I am glad to be there.
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| Kenneth |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 5:53:09 PM
I swear this place has turned into an extreme left wing propaganda conspiracy theory message board. I usually just skip these threads because its bull shit, except for the comical value. The one where the American flags are supposed to symbolize the twin towers is the best one I’ve seen yet.
You know, I ate a sandwich for lunch yesterday but then later that afternoon I realized I had not eaten a sandwich at all. Fucking Conspiracy!
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| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 5:45:30 PM
Everyone in the world knows innately you shouldn't kill people. These other people, unfortunately, are driven mainly by greed and SELF-righteousness. Those things, I am sick of, Dan P.
Explosions are OK. Look at the Weather Underground, they blew up mad shit in the name of protest and never killed anyone. In your word, "Excelsior!"
What do you do with a world that doesn't care about its own well being? Fuck it...HARD!
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| dan p. |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 5:32:08 PM
we need you in the cia right now, dude. stop posting and go! it happened hours ago and you're already sure it was the english government. tell you what, why don't you put the aluminum foil hat away and wait untill the dust settles before you get your theories. it only happened hours ago.
what disturbs me more is that you haven't said word one about the dead, wounded, and bereaved. i mean, others here have, but you? you didn't even mention them, and i'm willing to bet you didn't think about them. you went right to politics. how about giving the people 5 seconds. just a small, personal break. it's so ironic that you immediately jump on this like a bitch in heat and use it to try to convince that is it was the english government, the same way bush would use it to push his agenda.
if i sound angry, it's because i am. i'm sick of the finger pointing on all sides. i'm sick of the fear. and i'm sick of the bombings and death. i never thought i'd get sick of explosions, but there it is. |
| Robin |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 5:08:33 PM
I agree Pam, my thoughts go out to the people it has directly affected, and I refuse to give in to the fear that we're now fed through the media on an almost daily basis.I wonder if the issue of global warming will even be discussed at the Summit,this certainly has come at an opportune TIMe for Bush. Terror alert has been bumped up to orange today, so be sure to wear your fave orange item! Peace, Robin |
| Zachmozach |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 4:06:20 PM
That's scary that he basically predicted an attack based on the shift in the overusage of fear on the people.
It's so hard to believe some of the stuff going on today. The governments of the world brought terrorism to the level it is at today and then they turn it and use it on the people. It's sick. |
| PJK |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 3:57:42 PM
Don't worry Fluffy. I doubt anything is going to happen in DC, or anywhere in the USA, at least not today or any time real soon. That is the "great" part about being a terrorist, you say where,when, and how. Terrorism is not ever going to go away.
They don't need to do things simultaneously because the "shock waves" of fear reach out far and wide. I think Bush uses this fear to promote his agenda and I will be damned if I will play into that. Go about life as normal. We always need to be smart and do what we can but since so much is out of our hands, all we can do is lend our prayers and healing vibes to the victims.
I would love to have seen the look on Bush's face when he got the news about London. Did he get that same deer in the headlights look as he did on 9-11? Oh wait, he could always blame a bad facial expression on his misfortune on his bike yesterday.
I agree Robin, this whole thing makes me pretty sick too!
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| pants_happy |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 3:45:39 PM
rubylith,
if you don't like the changes in our country after 9/11, you can take steps now so they don't happen in others. post your info in every british forum, in every large chatroom, and make sure to raise public awareness about any freedom sacrificing bill or legislation they try to squeek by in the name of better security. |
| Robin |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 12:20:36 PM
This whole thing makes me feel sick. Peace, Robin |
| rubylith |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 10:42:52 AM
hey fluffy,
I know I heard the news too, it is terrible what happened.
New York is under police state as well. |
| Fluffy |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 10:35:39 AM
As we arrived in Dayton, OH this morning I saw on the news how DC is now under lockdown after the events in London. Subway shut down, etc etc etc. We left DC at 10:45 PM last nite. Looks like I got out of that mess just in the nick of TIMe, thanx to TR! Good luck DC. |
| rubylith |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 09:41:45 AM
AT 11:00 MARTIAL LAW WAS INNITIATED IN LONDON. |
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