| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Fluffy |
Posted - 07/02/2008 : 05:21:08 AM
I am guessing most here will be nauseous if you read the entire thread. SCARY!!(sinister LOL):
http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=223628 |
| 100 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Andre_Brazil |
Posted - 08/22/2009 : 5:55:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by jsemon2
i hate ignorant people sometimes.
http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/showpost.php?p=6565915&postcount=8
from the thread
http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/showthread.php?t=202434
some dumb comments all around.
Heheheh this dumb don't know anything about it  |
| jsemon2 |
Posted - 08/22/2009 : 10:16:09 AM
i hate ignorant people sometimes.
http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/showpost.php?p=6565915&postcount=8
from the thread
http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/showthread.php?t=202434
some dumb comments all around. |
| lutherjm |
Posted - 02/26/2009 : 10:45:41 AM
I guess you could say that if you like what you've been hearing and might just like a little change then go with tim, and if you'd like to see trey's style and dmb then choose trey's it wouldnt be bad but it would be very interesting. |
| lutherjm |
Posted - 02/26/2009 : 10:43:20 AM
Wow it seems that yall took two amazing and unique guitarist and created this whole political debacle over it. Yall disgust me. Look, it seems to me that trey does sit more in for a song or two on the occasion which is because he has a very unique style and dave and his clash only in a certain way. Tim reynolds no offense to the dmb worshippers like myself sound has formed the dmb, he helped dave pick the members of his band and with the whole classical, rock, funk, deal. Tim and dave's playing just accent each other. But I'm sure with the talent that he has if trey were to go on for the full tour they were work at the songs and they would sound new and refurbished but different. Not necissarily in a good way or a bad way. just different. just as all music is not good or bad just different. tim and trey both in my opinion have insane amounts of knowledge in music and composing and it's just your opinion, but I can say that both having proven themselves of the years would do a tremendous job at acompaning the band on a tour. |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 01/29/2009 : 10:44:33 AM
You are putting yourself out here and having temper tantrums in a public venue. If you are too mentally fragile to get involved in arguments, then maybe you shouldn't be posting on a public forum about things of this nature. No reason to leave the board, but keep your injections to yourself when it comes to personal matters.
My father is a diagnosed schizophrenic. Don't think I don't know what a painful disease it can be. If you can't have a discussion without making bizarre online ultimatums, then maybe you should stick to TR Related topics. |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 01/29/2009 : 02:50:08 AM
Ok, HRW that really hurt and was uncalled for! I've been in a psych ward before, gone through therapy, and I suffer from mental illnesses. Your comment right there was so uncalled for and hurtful that I am seriously considering leaving these boards. I go through day in and day out with thoughts and problems in my head.
Weather you feel that my thoughts or feelings are stupid gives you no right to say that to me! HRW, you don't joke about that type of stuff, especially with people who have gone through that in their lives. |
| Arthen |
Posted - 01/27/2009 : 5:45:43 PM
Goddamn! You go out of town for a few days and an amazing thread only becomes funnier.
Dan, you are on fire with this thread. I have to agree with your statement, but I'd make for one alteration. Some may not be trainwrecks, but there's a penny on the tracks a little bit down the way. |
| dan p. |
Posted - 01/27/2009 : 1:18:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
Or
d) a trainwreck.
The answer, clearly D. We can deduce a lot from your handle. AGirlNamedPsycho, I mean, c'mon, you handed it to us. You're just like all the other girls. AHAHA
Nick, your poo-pooing in here is ridiculous. Talk it out in group therapy the bathroom.
fixed! |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 01/27/2009 : 10:11:33 AM
Or
d) a trainwreck.
The answer, clearly D. We can deduce a lot from your handle. AGirlNamedPsycho, I mean, c'mon, you handed it to us. You're just like all the other girls. AHAHA
Nick, your poo-pooing in here is ridiculous. Talk it out in group therapy. |
| AGirlNamedPsycho |
Posted - 01/27/2009 : 02:50:55 AM
This thread is a maaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing
wait wait lemme try -
I opened up for Tim Reynolds twice as a two-piece with my band Tsumi. The first time, 150 people were there. The second time, 124 people were there. Given the likelihood that the college crowd had gone home for the winter break and the price of gasoline was already way over 1.19, does this make my band -
a) Better than Trey Anastasio
b) Only slightly less popular than Clorox Bleach
c) an MS Paint drawing of a brontosaurus having breakfast |
| dan p. |
Posted - 01/26/2009 : 11:16:50 PM
which brings me to my next point: there's a fine line between being a trainwreck and being manly as fuck. |
| gnome44 |
Posted - 01/26/2009 : 8:35:02 PM
You mean getting an interest-only-zero-down-ballooning-variable-rate-reverse-mortgage was a bad idea?
My drug dealer said it was a "can't lose situation."
I guess that dodging all of my child support payments would come back to haunt me when it dropped my credit score to 385.
That's why I started charging all of my bills and alcohol expenses to my credit cards.
Never mind that I got fired from my job for sexual harrassment.
(CHUGGA-CHUGGA-CHUGGA-CHUGGA-CHOOO-CHOOO! SMASH!)
 |
| dan p. |
Posted - 01/25/2009 : 4:40:32 PM
i'm not a trainwreck, either. trainwrecks happen when you make stupid decisions in your life and don't handle problems neatly when they come up. or sometimes a ton of terrible things happen to a person. they're still a trainwreck, but it isn't really their fault. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 01/25/2009 : 01:00:58 AM
quote:
Originally posted by gnome44
Most people in their 20's and 30's are train wrecks.
Myself and my wife included! 
You bring up a good point. It all depends how you define train wreck. I think I'm a train wreck some times...not all the time but some times. Yeah, that definitely puts a whole new paint job on things. |
| gnome44 |
Posted - 01/24/2009 : 10:07:58 PM
Most people in their 20's and 30's are train wrecks.
Myself and my wife included! |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 01/24/2009 : 9:04:03 PM
Well put. My wife is a 20-something and is not a trainwreck, but I think she's an exception to the rule. Even being married to her, I still concur that most 20-30 women are trainwrecks. I'm sure my wife would agree as well. |
| dan p. |
Posted - 01/24/2009 : 6:03:23 PM
me too, guitarguy, but we have to remember that the plural of "anecdotal evidence" is not "data." i think you and i both know a number of 20something trainwrecks so that we have certain expectations of women that age we don't know. me, i just assume trainwreck until the girl is demonstrably not a trainwreck. the problem people run into with generalizations is not being able to let them go when dealing with a person who doesn't fit the generalization. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 01/24/2009 : 5:57:51 PM
I know a number of women in their 20's and 30's and most of them are, in fact, trainwrecks. |
| dan p. |
Posted - 01/24/2009 : 5:55:54 PM
i haven't hurt any of your friends, and if they were as sane as you say the are, they wouldn't give a fuck if a stranger who is clearly an asshole called them a trainwreck on the internet.
but, you might have a point. let's use our friend logic to break this one down. i said "women in their 20s and 30s are trainwrecks." your mind said, "he calls women in their 20s and 30s trainwrecks. my female friends are in their 20s. therefore, he thinks my female friends are trainwrecks." sounds logical, and by that interpretation i have committed the logical fallacy known as destroying the exception, and should have used a qualifier such as "many" "most" or "nearly all." and maybe you're right. i certainly didn't mean to communicate that i don't mean every single 20-30 female is a trainwreck. i thought the recognition of rare exceptions was implied, because we're all basically grown-ups here.
the problem here is that we're going on experiences. your experiences tell you that at least your small handful of women are not, in fact, trainwrecks. my experiences, however, tell me that women in their 20s and 30s are mostly trainwrecks.
i amend my statement. most women in their 20s and 30s are trainwrecks, but not all. |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 01/24/2009 : 04:30:21 AM
Well dan, I am bi, but that has nothing to do with it. I don't ever really come across people who think bisexuality isn't a legitimate orientation.
How about generalization about men? I've been hurt many times being generalized as a stereotypical man. I have been excluded from things because I am a man. How about that? But you know what, that doesn't stem from where my anger comes from. It comes from fucking intolerance and generalization that hurts friends. Can I be angry at people because my friends are hurt? Hmmm? Ever thought of that dan?
Now stop it! |
| dan p. |
Posted - 01/23/2009 : 2:46:47 PM
i find your rage interesting. let's examine it.
you find generalizations hurtful and offensive. that points to you being part of a group that is generalized against a lot, because people don't care about actions that don't hurt themselves directly. this thread rules out any sort of ethnic minority. which leaves creed and sexual orientation. you're a moderate liberal, judging from your posts and support of obama, and moderate in politics tend to be moderates in most things, religion included. so it's not likely you've been generalized about for a religious belief.
that leaves sexual orientation. you spoke briefly on this board a while back about being interested in a girl, so that rules out homosexuality. however, straights aren't really generalized about, and given the list of friends you have who are girls, i'm going to go out on a limb and say you're bisexual and your anger stems from the fact that people generalize about bisexuality because they don't believe it's a legitimate orientation or they don't understand it. |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 6:16:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
. . . You admittedly don't get out much, so take our word for it . . .
Ok, I find THAT insulting!
Also, some are nutty and some aren't. I know plenty women who are not nutty. My friends Kari, Janell, Katie, and Alyssa. Don't fucking generalize because it does hurt. Not always to the ones you generalize about but also the ones that are close to them and love them. So fucking stop it! I can't be clearer enough, stop it! This is one line you don't want to cross with me.
Edit: I know this is harsh, but it is a big problem with me. I have been hurt many times by generalization as well as friends being hurt by generalization (weather it be about girls, boys, blacks, whites, gays, bi's, or straight people). This is a sensitive topic for me, so I ask for it to stop, please. |
| dan p. |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 1:20:43 PM
i was taking a far more (what would be considered) misogynistic stance that what hrw said. for example, i was going to say women in their 20s and 30s are a trainwreck because of various societal pressures, but also for a variety of other reasons that would be insulting to point out. |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 09:39:23 AM
Dan, that was a great post, I could've said it a only little better myself. 
Nick, don't be so fatuous. Society is making it increasingly difficult for women to find a comfortable role in framework of humanity. This is what Dan refers to. On a whole, there are more train wrecks than not. You admittedly don't get out much, so take our word for it. We're both glad you're friend isn't nutty as squirrel shit, but a lot of women our age are.
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| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 05:17:00 AM
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.
women in their 20s and 30s are a trainwreck.
My best friend Anna is in her 20s. She is one of the greatest people I know. Be careful what you say. |
| Arthen |
Posted - 01/20/2009 : 3:16:18 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.
does he give examples of how tim reynolds lacks musicality? i don't disagree with him 100%, either. i also think he can get a little sloppy when he goes for speed on the electric, and a lot of things that go into musicality and technically can be measured objectively.
lacks musicality? lacks what? and in what medium? as far as his acoustic work goes, his sense of melody and cadence, as well as his command of harmony and function, are superb. his use of dynamics is effective. i could do with more changes in tone, but the tone that he has is rich.
as far as his electric work goes, i'm just not a fan, so i'm not as familiar with it. i've heard and seen him play with dmb enough to understand that some people would consider his solos ostentatious and lacking in taste. i disagree. at the worst of times, he sounds slightly out of place. as far as his contributions to dmb's songs as a whole, they are excellent. they're subtle, and they add depth.
This is the single best post you've ever made. Thank you Dan. |
| Kevin |
Posted - 01/20/2009 : 3:09:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.
women in their 20s and 30s are a trainwreck.
100% true |
| dan p. |
Posted - 01/20/2009 : 2:06:43 PM
women in their 20s and 30s are a trainwreck. |
| PJK |
Posted - 01/20/2009 : 08:31:32 AM
quote:
it's so nice to come to a board of mostly sane people. ants wears me out
LOL!
I am the "old lady" here. Only read ants a few times but the comments, especially by women in their 20's & 30's made me think of when I was infatuated with the Beatles. Only difference is that I was 11! Hard for me to understand the infatuation with DMB.
Cuff, while I don't know how sane anyone here is, LOL, I will say this board is ALL about the music! |
| Cuff |
Posted - 01/20/2009 : 06:50:20 AM
it's so nice to come to a board of mostly sane people. ants wears me out |
| Fluffy |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 04:03:56 AM
When I checked in on the thread 348 votes were for 8, 9 and 10 out of 397 votes cast. I'd say thats not too damn bad! Seems the people who want to comment are always the ones with only criticism. Notice how almost all of you said you started typing then stopped. The naysayers are usually the FIRST and the loudest with comments. Whatever!! We know how we think about TR so let the whiners whine. You can't please everyone. hehe I think the funniest part is TR would probably agree with most of the comments leveled against him even though we don't LOL Not about the musicality prolly but definitely the sloppiness. LOL |
| dan p. |
Posted - 01/16/2009 : 02:15:11 AM
does he give examples of how tim reynolds lacks musicality? i don't disagree with him 100%, either. i also think he can get a little sloppy when he goes for speed on the electric, and a lot of things that go into musicality and technically can be measured objectively.
lacks musicality? lacks what? and in what medium? as far as his acoustic work goes, his sense of melody and cadence, as well as his command of harmony and function, are superb. his use of dynamics is effective. i could do with more changes in tone, but the tone that he has is rich.
as far as his electric work goes, i'm just not a fan, so i'm not as familiar with it. i've heard and seen him play with dmb enough to understand that some people would consider his solos ostentatious and lacking in taste. i disagree. at the worst of times, he sounds slightly out of place. as far as his contributions to dmb's songs as a whole, they are excellent. they're subtle, and they add depth. |
| gnome44 |
Posted - 01/15/2009 : 11:30:51 PM
In all fairness, it seems that the majority of the people liked Tim.
Although they might have a pretty narrow opinion of him...at least they appreciate the genius that is TR. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 01/15/2009 : 8:23:52 PM
Let's not forget that these people have heard Tim play with DMB for an entire Summer tour now and plenty of T&D shows so, yeah, they know a lot more about Tim as a guitarist than any of us does.
Seriously, do you think these people could name 10 Tim Reynolds songs without doing a Google search?
The guy you quoted is a perfect example. He is most likely basing his opinion of off one or two Tim solos with DMB during Jimi Thing or something else. A lot of these people forget or just don't care that he's his own artist and his work with Dave and DMB does not define him as a guitarist. He fits in where he needs to when playing with them and that's it. But this is the same kind of person that would go to a Tim solo acoustic show and then say it was "too weird" because he did some stuff with a ring modulator and looped it.
Again, my main issue with many in the DMB fan base is that they have a narrow view of music and if it's not their cup of tea that it just shouldn't be liked by anyone. The nice thing about that is that the people that DO like Tim on his own and find their way to our boards are usually pretty cool people who are actually open to new and original things. |
| gnome44 |
Posted - 01/15/2009 : 6:11:56 PM
This one was pretty harsh, I think...
"Technically and far more so musically. Again, my biggest problem with Tim is his utter lack of musicality. I think he's sloppy when he gets fast and I'm not a fan of his tone, but I could overlook that completely if he was musical. But he's anything but. There's inferior guitarists technically that are infinitely more musical than he is that I would rank higher even. That's why I feel more honest when I say 4-5. Besides the plethora of guys that are superior technically and musically, there's so many that are superior just musically that I feel are worthy of being ranked higher than him as well. And really, on more time, there are just soooooooooooooooooo many guys out there who at the very, very, very least can objectively do everything he does as well as him; and as said, usually far better. If you think otherwise, you truly have no idea what you're talking about. Truly, despite what you may think, some of these things can ABSOLUTELY be gauged factually."[ |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 01/15/2009 : 4:52:34 PM
Saw this one myself. I also start typing responses to these sometimes and then just close them. You really can't reason with these people. HUGE reason I hope Tim never officially joins DMB. |
| dancheatham |
Posted - 01/15/2009 : 4:33:03 PM
This is one of the best I've seen. It's one of those threads where I keep beginning to type a lengthy, thought-out response, but close it out before I get too far because I know how futile it would be.
http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=238620&page=6 |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 12/03/2008 : 03:56:57 AM
Everyone knows that Tim actually doesn't play live, and it's a hologram that plays that he recorded before the tour, so he sits in the back smoking the whole time. Duh, that's like common knowledge. |
| Arthen |
Posted - 12/01/2008 : 2:19:39 PM
Everyone knows that while they are soundchecking TR plays electric guitar in front of his weed. He rocks so hard the THC flies out of the weed and into TR. Duh. |
| jsemon2 |
Posted - 12/01/2008 : 1:42:59 PM
http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=236281&page=2 |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 11/27/2008 : 11:59:24 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ranting Thespian
I never said anyone said they sold out. I just was making a statement. That's all.
Gotcha. Sorry for the misunderstanding. |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 11/26/2008 : 8:18:24 PM
I never said anyone said they sold out. I just was making a statement. That's all. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 11/26/2008 : 6:06:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
Dave boarders are fucking morons, for the record.
For the most part, yes. There are a few rays of light out there, but not many. |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 11/26/2008 : 11:50:56 AM
With UTTAD, DMB definitely made it into the river of 'mainstream' music, the cool thing was they never really got caught up in the media frenzy.
With Everyday, they just changed producers, where after doing 3 incredible records with Lillywhite, changed gears and did something a BIT different. I don't think they ever 'sold out', though, in my humble opinion, they did start sounding a bit stale.
Glad TR is back on board, and hopefully they'll regain some of that freshness from their first few records.
Dave boarders are fucking morons, for the record. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 11/26/2008 : 09:04:15 AM
I don't think anyone mentioned DMB selling out. I do not think they are sell outs, not in the least. I just mentioned that Everyday was part of what made them more mainstream. I Did It, The Space Between and Everyday were pretty big singles from what I remember. Crash Into Me also gained them quite a bit of popularity and it even made it on Pop-Up Video (anyone remember that show??)
Again, my main point is that I find it ironic that hard core DMB fans, whose favorite band sounds nothing like anything else in mainstream music, are so critical of "different" music like TR solo or TR3.
That being said, I also got into Tim through DMB, but I now consider myself a bigger fan of Tim's than of DMB. I remember buying Sanctuary soon after hearing him playing with them on Live at Red Rocks. From there I was hooked and had to own everything TR had ever released. |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 11/25/2008 : 7:13:20 PM
You know, I absolutely LOVE DMB. I listen to them all the time. If it wasn't for DMB and Dave, I would never know Tim. I found out about Tim because of Live @ Luther College. Because of that, I bought See Into Your Soul. Then I got Astral Projection, and when I listened to it I was shocked to hear what I heard. It took a little while, but it grew on me. Now I love his electric/TR3 stuff as well.
I never consider DMB to be a sellout band. They never do things for the money, and they make their own decisions musically. If they really disliked Everyday, they wouldn't have gone through with it. Carter did say that Everyday was not a DMB album, but a Dave and Glen album. However, he said they made one hell of an album. They were trying to do something different to get out of the funk. Yes, it wasn't their best, but it wasn't them selling out. The problem with Stand Up was that they rushed it do to time constraints. I bet if they had more time to really tweak some songs, and tighten the material it would have been a good album instead of mediocre.
I love DMB, I love D&T, I love D&F, I love TR acoustic, I love TR+effects, I love TR electric, and I love TR3. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 11/24/2008 : 2:50:10 PM
You could say that Everyday did that, but maybe mainstream isn't the word I'm looking for. I guess what I'm trying to say is that nothing else on the radio currently or that I can remember in the not to distant past has sounded like DMB. DMB has a pretty unique sound and a instrument line up not often found in popular music. Even though their sound has changed over the years, it still stands out from the crowd, at least for me.
All I'm really saying is that a lot of people that like DMB also seem to have pretty eclectic musical tastes otherwise, which is why I find it funny that so many of their fans don't like TR3 or Tim's solo stuff. |
| LeroiMfan |
Posted - 11/24/2008 : 1:34:33 PM
mmm I sort of disagree GuitarGuy, I think DMB went main stream a long time ago. They're still good though. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 11/24/2008 : 09:22:04 AM
The close mindedness of a lot of DMB fans amazes me, especially when they are fans of DMB that doesn't really sound like anything else out there and isn't really mainstream.
I am never shocked when someone posts that TR3 isn't good or Tim's voice sucks or Tim's solo work sucks. It is obvious that they just aren't into it and they're expecting something else...maybe a DMB cover band? The thing that really irritates me is that people post things on that board so matter of factly as if their opinion is the final word and therefore Tim should only play with DMB (but not too often) and should only play acoustic. |
| gnome44 |
Posted - 11/23/2008 : 11:54:52 PM
GRRRRR...
The stupidity of those threads never ceases to amaze me... |
| jsemon2 |
Posted - 11/23/2008 : 11:17:50 PM
haha, he does have an afro. as far the electric stuff, there are quite a few people on this board that arent fans of it either. but to each his own, right. luckily the we know tim well be back to some solo acoustic before too long. then back to electric, and back to acoustic......etc |
| dancheatham |
Posted - 11/23/2008 : 10:54:43 PM
Here's a good one: http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?p=8516303&posted=1#post8516303 |
| dancheatham |
Posted - 09/30/2008 : 11:24:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by gnome44
He wasn't referring to you.
He was referring to dan p.
haha I thought so, just wanted a good reason to use that smiley ;) |
| gnome44 |
Posted - 09/30/2008 : 10:25:41 PM
He wasn't referring to you.
He was referring to dan p. |
| dancheatham |
Posted - 09/30/2008 : 9:18:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
You shut your filthy, metal mouth, Dan. You cock.
 |
| Fluffy |
Posted - 09/30/2008 : 6:54:33 PM
YIKES!!! And then something like this:
quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by water_into_wine
Listen to Betrayal. I personally think it is a great piece of improv, skill, and music.
Improv? Not so much, the man has been playing that song pretty much the same since he debuted it. Not to say that it isn't a fabulous piece of music. I've gotten a little bit into Tim's solo stuff and while there are some great pieces (Stream, Metamorphosis, Impermanence, You Are My Sanity, and Betrayal) if you notice, he only plays a few select songs when he is given a solo slot. Tim is a little too scattered to be focused in the way the greats are. Not to belittle his talent, but he's just not on the same level as the top guitarists of all time.
Of course the topic of this NEW thread is the Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists list from 2003. Seems Ants is just getting around to addressing the greivous omission of TR. hehe Here is a link to the thread if you DARE check it out:
http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=232915
And then there is the "sanity" reply:
http://antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=232932 |
| dan p. |
Posted - 09/23/2008 : 3:38:19 PM
it gives us focus, makes us stronger.
or, we're joking around. |
| jjkim1028 |
Posted - 09/22/2008 : 5:52:29 PM
oh, boy...
why so much hate? |
| dan p. |
Posted - 09/21/2008 : 7:45:32 PM
probably a force of habit. |
| Arthen |
Posted - 09/21/2008 : 6:35:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
You shut your filthy, metal mouth, Dan. You cock.
Wrong Dan. |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 09/21/2008 : 08:44:30 AM
You shut your filthy, metal mouth, Dan. You cock. |
| Arthen |
Posted - 09/20/2008 : 1:26:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dancheatham
I'm not saying I believe the rumor that TR is going to officially join DMB (if he hasn't done so in 17 years, I don't think he would now), BUT even if he does start playing on all of their albums again and going on tour with them every year, I don't see why that would stop TR3. DMB only plays shows in the summer, and sometimes the fall; TR3 could do fall, winter, and spring tours, and could continue to play one-off shows here and there during DMB season.
Remember that year when Warren Haynes was playing with Gov't Mule, ABB, and the Dead simultaneously? It can be done...
But again, I don't really see Tim becoming a member of DMB this late in the game, even in light of LeRoi's death.
It would still be one less season for a possible Tim tour. Plus, shows in between DMB shows would have to be close to the main tour limiting the area TR could cover on his own. Plus, I don't think TR would want to try to cram in that much touring in a year. I'm just hoping for the maximum percent of chances to see TR3. I missed Chaos View in 2002, I don't want a repeat. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 09/20/2008 : 10:43:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by dancheatham
I'm not saying I believe the rumor that TR is going to officially join DMB (if he hasn't done so in 17 years, I don't think he would now), BUT even if he does start playing on all of their albums again and going on tour with them every year, I don't see why that would stop TR3. DMB only plays shows in the summer, and sometimes the fall; TR3 could do fall, winter, and spring tours, and could continue to play one-off shows here and there during DMB season.
Remember that year when Warren Haynes was playing with Gov't Mule, ABB, and the Dead simultaneously? It can be done...
But again, I don't really see Tim becoming a member of DMB this late in the game, even in light of LeRoi's death.
Well put Dan. You make a good point that it could definitely be done. 2008 has actually been a great example of how Tim can do the DMB stuff and TR3 at the same time.
I have mixed emotions about the whole thing. I would love for Tim to be a full time member of DMB because of what he brings to the table, but at the same time I would worry that the solo material/TR3 would suffer. Until Fluffy weighs in though, it's all speculation. |
| dancheatham |
Posted - 09/20/2008 : 10:27:01 AM
I'm not saying I believe the rumor that TR is going to officially join DMB (if he hasn't done so in 17 years, I don't think he would now), BUT even if he does start playing on all of their albums again and going on tour with them every year, I don't see why that would stop TR3. DMB only plays shows in the summer, and sometimes the fall; TR3 could do fall, winter, and spring tours, and could continue to play one-off shows here and there during DMB season.
Remember that year when Warren Haynes was playing with Gov't Mule, ABB, and the Dead simultaneously? It can be done...
But again, I don't really see Tim becoming a member of DMB this late in the game, even in light of LeRoi's death. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 09/20/2008 : 09:11:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Arthen
Nope. I want a TR3 funky show. And I want a TR3 album.
Ditto. While I believe that Tim could bring DMB new new heights (as he proved this last tour) I really hope he keeps doing is own thing with TR3. I cannot wait for the new TR3 album! |
| Arthen |
Posted - 09/20/2008 : 02:35:24 AM
Nope. I want a TR3 funky show. And I want a TR3 album. |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 09/20/2008 : 01:50:14 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Arthen
If I don't get a TR3 tour on the west coast in the next eight months, I'm gonna go apeshit. The show would be twice the fun of a DMB show and a third the cost.
Unless it is front row seats at Alpine Valley with Tim playing with DMB. That would take the cake, especially the setlists they performed this year at both shows. |
| Arthen |
Posted - 09/19/2008 : 04:07:30 AM
If I don't get a TR3 tour on the west coast in the next eight months, I'm gonna go apeshit. The show would be twice the fun of a DMB show and a third the cost. |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 09/19/2008 : 03:47:08 AM
Official member? I highly doubt it. Tim has to deal with TR3 and his solo material as well. To 100% dedicate himself to DMB doesn't seem like Tim, nor does it seem like he has time for it. Yes I see him on the next album, and I can still see him touring with them on and off again like in the past. But as a permanent member, just can't see it. I would be in shock if the rumor is true. |
| Kevin |
Posted - 09/18/2008 : 11:13:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by GuitarGuy305
Here's another good one for you.
http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=232257
I was just gonna bring this up...maybe Fluffy can go more into detail here? Lots of rumors get concocted over there, so I'm always a little hesitant to rely on someone's "official" inside info. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 09/18/2008 : 11:02:09 PM
Here's another good one for you.
http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=232257 |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 01:46:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
Being THE authority on this board, I have this to proclaim:
1) Dave-Boarders are all fucked.
2) Tim Reynolds does whatever the hell he pleases, and you'll shut the hell up about it.
3) Arguing with Dan P. is like masturbating with a cheese grater. It's agonizing, but at least you're masturbating.
4) Nick, learn how to spell. Especially on derogatory comments.
HRW has spoken.
Fluffy, I'll be seeing you guys at Highline in NYC, it's been a while! Hope all is well!
Oh yeah? Well your mama's so fat that when she walked outside, a little boy pointed at her and said, "hey, you're fat!" |
| dan p. |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 12:58:44 AM
this just in: morons on the internet say stupid things in regards to topics they know nothing about. more at 11. |
| Hopeful Rolling Waves |
Posted - 09/14/2008 : 7:41:06 PM
Being THE authority on this board, I have this to proclaim:
1) Dave-Boarders are all fucked.
2) Tim Reynolds does whatever the hell he pleases, and you'll shut the hell up about it.
3) Arguing with Dan P. is like masturbating with a cheese grater. It's agonizing, but at least you're masturbating.
4) Nick, learn how to spell. Especially on derogatory comments.
HRW has spoken.
Fluffy, I'll be seeing you guys at Highline in NYC, it's been a while! Hope all is well! |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 09/13/2008 : 10:19:35 PM
Poll, who's board memebers are more full of ducebags:
antsmarching.org
dmbtabs.com |
| jsemon2 |
Posted - 09/12/2008 : 11:08:04 AM
perfect fucking example of some of the shit that will start to appear once again.
http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=231793 |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 07/09/2008 : 6:29:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ranting Thespian
quote:
Originally posted by GuitarGuy305
Hey Nick, you're posting and it's not 2 AM. What gives?
Here, it's 4:34 am. Happy?
Yes, all is right with the world again!  |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 07/09/2008 : 05:42:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by GuitarGuy305
Hey Nick, you're posting and it's not 2 AM. What gives?
Here, it's 4:34 am. Happy? |
| greengrow |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 9:29:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by dan p.
greengrow. truce? let's start over, without all the bullshit this time, now that your points are more clearly expressed. tell me if i'm missing a point of what you've said. your more recent posts are easier to follow.
you said that you would prefer it if tim reynold's music, his playing, energy, ect., reached more people through collaboration with different artists. after all, the more people he reaches, the more people he inspires. and that sort of thing would influence music in a better direction.
i'll agree with that. tim reynolds could add a lot to the music of any artist he works with. look at how much he adds to dmb songs. look at how many people he's inspired with his solo music. he could probably do a lot more good on a larger scale by reaching larger audiences.
except it doesn't seem like that's what he wants to do. you say you don't understand that. fair enough. maybe if you get some time, read some of the interviews or try to find some archive posts about why he doesn't do that. it's possible your philosophy on the subject can't can see eye to eye with his. that happens from time to time.
"What makes him less of an "artist" playing with dmb?"
i've asked this, too, because it seems a lot of people do take the stance that him playing with dmb makes him less of an artist. i don't get how someone can think that. i think, as far as that goes, he's really old friends with the band, especially dave matthews himself, who used to tend bar at the place where tim reynolds regularly played. that probably comes into play a little in his decision to do those tours.
oh yeah dude we're totally cool, we've been cool. I don't really take the emotional part of this messageboard shit seriously, I like spazzin out sometimes though when I'm real fucked up. hopefully I haven't done anything to disrespect tim or his music in the process of being an asshole. I remember when I was 16 I was trying my hardest to figure out one of the riffs to his songs (I was a couple idiot about it, no theory, knew how to play trumpet a little and read music a little but not much) so there I say trying to figure out one of tim's songs, literally 1 second at a time. play->pause->rewind->play,etc for hours and hours. then I saw I could e-mail him at his webtv account or something weird as fuck. like "why the fuck does he have webtv", but he responded and it fucking tripped me out, he's like something something try putting it drop C. and my 16 year-old mind was like waa.. oka.. how awesome. I'll never forget it. TR is the fucking man start to finish. he's like a morphing psycho cyclone that just changes with whatever music vibe he runs into then just consumes it and makes it soar like a fucking dragon hawk over the sky line of a maple tree. did you just hear that fucking poetry? freestyle str8 up.
but yea we cool |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 9:25:27 PM
Hey Nick, you're posting and it's not 2 AM. What gives? |
| gnome44 |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 9:25:25 PM
It was hyperbole.
Of course he's not really a joke. I don't think he deserves most of the accolades he receives. He's no Duane Allman...that's for sure.
I have a tendency to over-exaggerate most of my adjectives... |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 8:15:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by gnome44
At least they nailed the fact that Warren Haynes is a joke of guitarist who has somehow tricked the world into thinking he can actually play...
I like Warren Haynes. Why do you say he is a joke of a guitarist? I don't think he is the best. He is far from the likes of David Gilmour, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Jimi Hendrix, and Tim, but I think he is good. I love his performance with DMB on the Central Park DVD/CD. He does some good solos for both Jimi Thing and Cortez the Killer. I also think he is a good song writer. I have 2 Gov't Mule albums and I like them both.
I mean, you may not like his style, but what makes you think he is a joke of a guitarst? |
| dan p. |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 2:33:45 PM
greengrow. truce? let's start over, without all the bullshit this time, now that your points are more clearly expressed. tell me if i'm missing a point of what you've said. your more recent posts are easier to follow.
you said that you would prefer it if tim reynold's music, his playing, energy, ect., reached more people through collaboration with different artists. after all, the more people he reaches, the more people he inspires. and that sort of thing would influence music in a better direction.
i'll agree with that. tim reynolds could add a lot to the music of any artist he works with. look at how much he adds to dmb songs. look at how many people he's inspired with his solo music. he could probably do a lot more good on a larger scale by reaching larger audiences.
except it doesn't seem like that's what he wants to do. you say you don't understand that. fair enough. maybe if you get some time, read some of the interviews or try to find some archive posts about why he doesn't do that. it's possible your philosophy on the subject can't can see eye to eye with his. that happens from time to time.
"What makes him less of an "artist" playing with dmb?"
i've asked this, too, because it seems a lot of people do take the stance that him playing with dmb makes him less of an artist. i don't get how someone can think that. i think, as far as that goes, he's really old friends with the band, especially dave matthews himself, who used to tend bar at the place where tim reynolds regularly played. that probably comes into play a little in his decision to do those tours. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 12:32:08 PM
I'm actually surprised that Eric Clapton made it into that poll since he has never guested with DMB. It seems the only way that DMB fans are introduced to new music is when an artist or band member guests with DMB. |
| gnome44 |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 11:00:45 AM
I was basing that on the vote tally at the beginning... |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 10:55:36 AM
I don't know if I got that far. I stopped reading after I saw someone say "Eric Clapton is GOD." |
| gnome44 |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 10:49:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by GuitarGuy305
Here's another one for you guys...
http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=224126
These people need lives.
At least they nailed the fact that Warren Haynes is a joke of guitarist who has somehow tricked the world into thinking he can actually play... |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 07:16:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by greengrow
vagina's are sweet but we're talking about music on music forums. bitch.
Settle down there, sport. |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 02:22:06 AM
I get vaginas and donuts confused with all the time. |
| greengrow |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 01:45:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by GuitarGuy305
Here's another one for you guys...
http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=224126
These people need lives.
Have any of you ever even seen a vagina? Would you be able to pick a vagina out of a lineup? If I had a vagina, a donut and a mop could you tell me which one it was?
vagina's are sweet but we're talking about music on music forums. bitch. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 07/07/2008 : 12:17:52 AM
Here's another one for you guys...
http://www.antsmarching.org/forum/showthread.php?t=224126
These people need lives.
Have any of you ever even seen a vagina? Would you be able to pick a vagina out of a lineup? If I had a vagina, a donut and a mop could you tell me which one it was? |
| greengrow |
Posted - 07/05/2008 : 4:03:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by jsemon2
damn, this forum blew up.
greengrow, slow down a bit there. and right after fluffy says "do your research, the information is on this board" you reply right back asking as if he didn't state anything.
the thing you probably fail to realize is that this board is very unique in its kind, in that people that post actually are friends with Tim in real life.
just sit back and enjoy what's happening right now and dont expect anymore or less of it. don't try to read into it, speculate, etc. just enjoy it.
Sorry to come off as a prick with all trash talk thrown in at other fans. I don't have a ton of time to search around for specific things.. what those exact things I need to read are.. I have no clue. I'm sure people come here all the time, dmb fans just running the rant. but that wasn't what I was trying to do at all.
to kind of respond to thespian up there, I agree. I'm a musician myself and it's a huge part of my life. I love sitting down with my laptop setup and just recording songs of sorts and styles, whatever I feel like letting loose. then I like getting out there at shows and trying to convey that feeling or vibe to the audience as well. it's really hard to do. Tim Does it. Whether the crowd be small, or it be big. some of the crowds at the small shows often hear about him because of the Dave Matthews Band. Even though he's a great, extremely modest artist whose been playing for longer than I've been a live. I have nothing but pure respect and admiration for Tim and his decisions. just for the record.
But that point of connecting to people with your music Tim has already accomplished. when I was going to go to the TR3 show with my two friends I got the pukes and couldn't go, they went and said it was great. Tim is a fantastic musician. That Artist Respect IS THERE. he doesn't have to struggle to be respected like you and me who are still working the system trying to find some way to fit our music in and get it to some sort of an audience.
Tim's energy, the style, the completely spontaneous approach. I mean he's Top of line. He should be playing for thousands because he IS connected to them, especially the ones who may not have heard them.
The Dave Matthews Band Fanbase completely recycled itself, it's fucking weird. when I first was a fan I was in 7th grade and all the older fans where the age I am now, around 24. now most of the fans that were "old school" are gone or not around because they have lives and tickets are 72 buck + service for pavilion. so this new wave of young dmb fans has inherited the band essentially. There are still plenty of old school fans going, but I used to go through warehouse and get killer seats, the whole super fan dealio. last show I didn't even care and scored lawn just to have some fun. and it was.
because Tim made it fresh. Tim is up there man. even though the money solo wasn't on and he was fucking with it I still had a good time and was INSPIRED by them appearing to just like jamming out. sometimes I thought they totally didn't want to be playing. but others it seemed like they were just in the zone. I don't know, it seems like Tim is at the top of his game right now and could help push music in the right direction. how amazing would a festival with this sort of line up be:
Dave Matthews Band w/Tim Reynolds
Radiohead
Pearl Jam
R.E.M.
Neil Young
Allman Brothers Band
Gov't Mule
Phil Lesh & Friends
Ween
My Morning Jacket
Sigur Ros
etc
get people exposed to the music more. not some commerical success like bonnaroo. more of a benefit.
just all these people who play, like your saying for themselves, for the art of it, but also for the art of conveying that message...
I don't know maybe I'm just an naive punk ass. I don't think Tim being in DMB will change the world on it's own, but I think him teaming up with them and a bunch of other amazing out spoken musicians could start some people questioning the way things are in the world a little more. but I mean a full no bias collaboration of music.
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| jsemon2 |
Posted - 07/05/2008 : 2:33:26 PM
damn, this forum blew up.
greengrow, slow down a bit there. and right after fluffy says "do your research, the information is on this board" you reply right back asking as if he didn't state anything.
the thing you probably fail to realize is that this board is very unique in its kind, in that people that post actually are friends with Tim in real life.
just sit back and enjoy what's happening right now and dont expect anymore or less of it. don't try to read into it, speculate, etc. just enjoy it. |
| Ranting Thespian |
Posted - 07/05/2008 : 04:04:18 AM
Just even a personal statement from me as a musician. Just my personal two cents.
quote:
Originally posted by gnome44
Ask any musician...they don't create/perform music for anyone but themselves. It just so happens that he can make money doing it in front of people. Granted, there's an energy with performing in front of a live crowd...
Now Greengrow, don't take this offensively. This is just my personal thoughts and styles
When I am by myself playing, I play for the joy of playing. I absolutely love to sit down with any of my guitars and just start playing a song, writing a song, or just fooling around on it. I also love to goof off with my shit load of effects and make the craziest stuff sometimes.
When I am performing I play for the the audience as well as me. I want to perform to them and get a vibe back that we are in sync together and play together. I want to make them as happy as I am playing the music. I want to share the joy of music, my playing, and my creativeness with the audience. Yes I am up on stage, and I am playing for the sake of playing for me, but I also want to share that joy with the audience. I don't just play for me and stand in front of people. That is not my thing. I want to share what I can create, and make them feel that they can create and perform as well. It's like making love . . . wink wink nudge nudge . . . say no more . . . or so it seems . . . yeah, I'm a virgin, lol! So I play for them as well as for me.
But everyone is different, so I don't expect everyone to perform how I perform. |
| Arthen |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 3:48:58 PM
Happy Independence day everyone, where we are supposed to remind ourselves that we are entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, however each of us chooses to define it, whether or not anyone else understands it. |
| greengrow |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 2:25:15 PM
here's my point:
alright I'll accept the fact that Tim is playing music for the art and his own personal enjoyment of it. If he is this "artist" as you say he is why does he play Dave and Tim shows, and for example this whole summer tour with them? or the D&F's shit? is it because he loves the music and people? or because he wants a little extra cash? or both?
There obviously was incentive enough for Tim to devote his whole summer to the Dave Matthews Band.
it just kind of makes that whole "pure artist" stuff sound like bs to me, but that's just me. What makes him less of an "artist" playing with dmb? he's making his own parts and ripping improv solos for thousands of people? it's not like their are limitations set by God or anything in music that says Tim Reynolds can't actively effect the songs, song structure and arrangement of a Dave Matthews song if he were to be working on it with Dave for example.
I don't know what I'm trying to accomplish other than I think this arrogant "I'm an artist" "I only play for me" "I don't give a fuck what people think" shit is COMPLETE shit.
Music is only EXPRESSION if other people do not connect to
Music is only ART when both the musician and audience are connected to the same emotion.
whether that be 10 or 10,000. if it were me I'd prefer to inspire 10,000 instead of 10people.
take all the subjective shit about whether a song is good or not and shove it. just sounds hypocritical that your argument is he's this "artist" and does what he wants but he's touring with the band and playing shows with them right now. isn't it hypocritical?
the other point is he's 50 or whatever, why hang on to that pretentious shit he's been saying since after the first Tim and Dave tour.
sorry I can't read this slow ass message board and keep up to date on all the "must read" posts.
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| greengrow |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 2:12:36 PM
fluffy you're cool. my beef is with knob job up there. |
| Fluffy |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 12:18:28 PM
greengrow wrote: quote:
I can not for the life of me understand why he doesn't join them for their summer tours then tour in the winter for his solo/TR3 stuff or whatever
A GREAT example of why I don't get involved in these discussions anymore.
First, it has been stated MANY TIMes on this board "why" TR doesn't do that?
Second, if you were a regular on this board and by that I mean someone who had been here for a while AND read all my posts on the subject you would know TR's reason for not doing that. As far as you "understanding" TR's decision to NOT to do that I realize that you may never understand even if you read his reasons you would then know his reasons but that still doesn't mean you would "understand" them or agree with them.
So hopefully you see the quandry that that statement creates for me. So then I must decide is it worth it to me to hash it out one more TIMe for someone who will prolly never understand TR's reasons since they prolly won't agree with them. Somehow you think it's my responsibility to educate folks on this. Well I have done that. The information is on this message board if someone took the TIMe to search it out. Someone who wants to educate themselves would search out the answer or alternately ASK why TR doesn't. Those 2 approaches would indicate to me someone who wants to educate themselves & subsequently would make me more likely to try to educate them. But taking on comments & opinions and feeling a need to educate folks who don't sound like they want to be educated. No thanks, seen where that road goes and it's a rocky road where I generally end up getting called names like "fucking idiot", "fucking douchebag" or "dumb fucking cunt" because someone doesn't agree with me or worse doesn't listen, OR even want to listen, to what I have to say. As far as "pussing out hardcore" I guess I would have to say that if I was trying to convince someone who hates milk or is allergic to milk to drink milk the likelihood of ever getting them to agree with my opinion that "milk is the best" I realistically see as "fruitless" and some might think I was "pussing out hardcore" & they are entitled to "their opinion" but I choose to look at it as fruitless discussion. |
| GuitarGuy305 |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 12:03:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Fluffy
I'd say it's a PERFECT example of why we DON'T get involved in those kinds of discussions anymore. Always seems to degenerate into name calling over what "I" consider a subjective subject which at the end of the day are nothing more than opinions. I'd say it's more of an indictment of "society" as a whole not just DMB or TR or fans of any band for that matter. For myself, I have to say 9 years of listening to arguments of opinion touted as fact where the author feels his/here opinion is the only valid opinion and won't give up until everyone agrees with his/her opinion or even try to see the other side is definitely a BIG part of what has left me gunshy. Bottom line, you can't educate those who don't want to be educated. They are convinced they know it all and must believe that theirs is the only opinion that matters. And to them it is the only opinion that matters. I am of the belief that you are entitled to your opinion and for me it is easier to respect that opinion as your own than try, no matter how much I disagree, to make you understand my side. Another factor is that we are talking about music here. I really don't give a flying fuck if you agree with me or if I change your mind. Everyone elses opinion about music doesn't matter to me enough. I would rather choose my battles about subjects of import like politics where there is a real reason to try and make people see it my way or try to educate folks to a different way of thinking on something that really matters. Peoples musical opinion is certainly not worth that effort. It's not going to change the world if I convince someone to believe that the Beatles changed music more than any other band in the world.
And with that, I believe this thread is over. |
| Fluffy |
Posted - 07/04/2008 : 11:43:05 AM
I'd say it's a PERFECT example of why we DON'T get involved in those kinds of discussions anymore. Always seems to degenerate into name calling over what "I" consider a subjective subject which at the end of the day are nothing more than opinions. I'd say it's more of an indictment of "society" as a whole not just DMB or TR or fans of any band for that matter. For myself, I have to say 9 years of listening to arguments of opinion touted as fact where the author feels his/here opinion is the only valid opinion and won't give up until everyone agrees with his/her opinion or even try to see the other side is definitely a BIG part of what has left me gunshy. Bottom line, you can't educate those who don't want to be educated. They are convinced they know it all and must believe that theirs is the only opinion that matters. And to them it is the only opinion that matters. I am of the belief that you are entitled to your opinion and for me it is easier to respect that opinion as your own than try, no matter how much I disagree, to make you understand my side. Another factor is that we are talking about music here. I really don't give a flying fuck if you agree with me or if I change your mind. Everyone elses opinion about music doesn't matter to me enough. I would rather choose my battles about subjects of import like politics where there is a real reason to try and make people see it my way or try to educate folks to a different way of thinking on something that really matters. Peoples musical opinion is certainly not worth that effort. It's not going to change the world if I convince someone to believe that the Beatles changed music more than any other band in the world. |
