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Evergreen
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Evergreen
Yak Addict
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 Posted - 02/21/2005 : 06:36:11 AM
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Hunter quotes:
`If I'd written all the truth I knew for the past 10 years, about 600 people--including me--would be rotting in prison cells from Rio to Seattle today. Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity in the context of professional journalism.'
`The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side.
`I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me.'
`When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.'
`For every moment of triumph, for every instance of beauty, many souls must be trampled.'
`We cannot expect people to have respect for law and order until we teach respect to those we have entrusted to enforce those laws.'
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 02/21/2005 : 09:43:12 AM
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oh man that is really sad
he was quite a genius
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KevinLesko
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 02/21/2005 : 11:49:14 AM
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| This is very crazy, my girlfriend and I were shocked when we read the headline last night before bed. I'm in the middle of reading Fear and Loathing right now, I'd seen the movie, but never read it. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 02/21/2005 : 2:36:33 PM
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| Sad, but not completely unexpected. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts |
Posted - 02/21/2005 : 5:45:37 PM
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If I ever thought anyone would ride out this terrible wave, it'd be HST. I admired his views, and admired more the fact he managed to maintain a sensible public world view despite his obviously decadent lifestyle.
A great writer and great mind. I'll never understand why such an end, but he'll be missed nevertheless.
Hunter, you big beautiful bastard, I'm having some whiskey tonite...and I fucking hate whiskey. |
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Evergreen
Yak Addict
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Posted - 02/22/2005 : 07:23:47 AM
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I usually don't like to watch movies more than once but i've seen Fear and Loathing numerous times. I never get sick of it. Movies don't usually do justice compared to the book, but in this case I think they did a great job.
I guess I'm really surprised about the suicide thing and wonder if maybe he was sick with cancer or something. The man chain smoked and had for a long long time. He was so private in the last 10-15 yrs maybe no one knew about it. But then again, it would seem like his family would have announced that he was terminally ill yesterday along with the fact that he shot himself to ease the news a bit.
Awhile back, I heard Johnny Depp do an interview about when he stayed with HST for several wks before shooting FLLV to study his part and get the mannerisms etc down. (Best role JD's ever played in my opinion) JD wouldn't say too much about his stay to respect HST's privacy saying he was an extremely private person but he did express how paranoid HST was in general. He didn't use the word paranoid, but described certain behaviors and instances which kinda defined paranoia. And paranoia combined with long time mass drug use can do strange things to people. A great loss which ever way you look at it.
I was pleasantly surprised to see how much news coverage he got on the major mainstream networks yesterday. And they didn't describe him as a drug crazed wacko like one would expect judging from coverage on other topics. They were complimentary. |
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 02/22/2005 : 09:43:23 AM
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He was a man like no other. And one of Fluffy's idols. I hope he is taking it okay.  |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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KevinLesko
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 02/23/2005 : 01:02:55 AM
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Observing President Bush's poor performance in a debate with John Kerry, he wrote for the magazine, "I almost felt sorry for him, until I heard someone call him 'Mister President,' and then I felt ashamed."
-Hunter S. Thompsom
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 02/23/2005 : 10:03:57 AM
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haha
what about this one:
"This March, Douglas Brinkley reports in "The New Yorker" story, the New York "Observer" (see below) noted that George W. Bush, then 28, attended Hunter S. Thompson's 1974 Super Bowl party in Houston, and, since then, folks have asked Thompson for details.
Here's part of what he told Brinkley: "I can't be expected to remember what every drug-addled yuppie hanger-oner who wanted to get close to me during a football game twenty-five years ago digested. There were so many dope fiends milling about, I don't remember what some Yalie named Bush, whose father was a factotum in the Nixon Administration, was doing. But he strikes me as the sort of person I would have thrown out of the room. A rich, beer-drunk yahoo with a big allowance who passes out in your bathtup....I don't want to become the Deep Drug Throat....I won't do it." --Politex, 5/20/00"
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
2579 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2005 : 10:48:08 AM
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Found this on AP today:
Son: Thompson's Suicide Was Not Surprise
Thu Feb 24,11:29 AM ET
U.S. National - AP
By DAN ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer
DENVER - Journalist Hunter S. Thompson's son says he wasn't surprised that his father committed suicide, but he was surprised it happened when it did.
"The way he chose to do it was not a surprise, but the timing was a total, total surprise," Juan Thompson said Wednesday in an interview with The Associated Press.
Hunter Thompson, 67, shot himself in the head Sunday just after 5:30 p.m. in the kitchen of his Aspen-area home. Juan Thompson said the "gonzo journalist" was not acting out of pain or desperation but probably decided it was time for him to go.
"One thing he said many times was that 'I'm a road man for the lords of karma.' It's cryptic, but there's an implication there that he may have decided that his work was done and that he didn't want to overstay his welcome; it was time to go," the 40-year-old son said by telephone from his father's home.
"He was not unhappy, he was not depressed, none of the things you would associate with someone who took his own life," he said.
Juan Thompson said his father had been in pain from a hip replacement, a broken leg and back surgery, but "I really don't believe it was motivated by pain."
Thompson's family is looking into firing his ashes from a cannon, as he had wanted. "It's a realistic possibility," the son said.
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/03/2005 : 11:37:49 AM
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Hunter Thompson was working on WTC collapse story before mysterious sudden death, warned he'd be 'suicided'
Toronto Globe and Mail | February 26, 2005:
Paul William Roberts in his Globe and Mail article of Saturday, February 26, 2005 wrote the following:
Hunter telephoned me on Feb. 19, the night before his death. He sounded scared. It wasn't always easy to understand what he said, particularly over the phone, he mumbled, yet when there was something he really wanted you to understand, you did. He'd been working on a story about the World Trade Center attacks and had stumbled across what he felt was hard evidence showing the towers had been brought down not by the airplanes that flew into them but by explosive charges set off in their foundations. Now he thought someone was out to stop him publishing it: "They're gonna make it look like suicide," he said. "I know how these bastards think . . ."
Hunter S. Thompson ... was indeed working on such a story.
Now check out this February 25 Associated Press story about Thompson's death. Sounds a lot like a professional hit with a silencer:
"I was on the phone with him, he set the receiver down and he did it. I heard the clicking of the gun," Anita Thompson told the Aspen Daily News in Friday's editions.
She said her husband had asked her to come home from a health club so they could work on his weekly ESPN column...
Thompson said she heard a loud, muffled noise, but didn't know what had happened. "I was waiting for him to get back on the phone," she said. (Her account to Rocky Mountain News reporter Jeff Kass is slightly different: "I did not hear any bang," she told Kass. She added that Thompson's son, who was in the house at the time, believed that a book had fallen when he heard the shot, according to Kass' report.)
Mack White sums up the questions well:
Thompson's family says he was not depressed, nor was he in enough to pain to kill himself. In fact, by all reports, he was quite happy. He was talking on the phone to his wife, getting ready to work on his column, when he decided it would be wise to kill himself, so that he could go out (we are told) while "still at the top of his form," even though this would mean not finishing his column or his expose on 9/11 (potentially the most important thing he would ever write) (?)...
RELATED: Hunter S. Thompson Suicide Story Changes
This account says Thompson killed himself while sitting in a chair on his typewriter and yet the original account tells us that Thompson shot himself while talking to his wife on the phone in the kitchen. Why has the story changed andwhat is the significance of the word typed on the paper in light of the fact that Thompson said he would be 'suicided' before being able to release a major story on explosives bringing down the twin towers?
From Inforwars.com
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tericee
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2005 : 4:57:03 PM
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| Weird... I wonder if we'll ever know the truth. |
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2005 : 6:25:53 PM
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| Probably not. I'm not sure I buy the twin tower story. I think it was logical that the heat from the planes took the buildings down, but then again, why would someone make up such a story? Strange, very strange. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 12:24:05 AM
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| I find that story to be highly suspect. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
4159 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 07:01:03 AM
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| Yeah, the more I thought about it the more I think it is typical Hunter to want to leave this world in a veil of conspiracy. I think he made it all up, but like Teri said, we will probably never know the truth. |
"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/04/2005 : 09:09:11 AM
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no its definately a valid idea of what happened. I could go into it for hours...
the most recent thing I discovered was this, check it out.
Goto:
http://www.controlled-demolition.co.uk/web/explosive_home/explosive.asp
Now click on the video for Pembrooke...
So it looks awfully familiar.
Now who is controlled-demolition? they were hired to clean up the Alfred E Murrow building in Oklahoma City and to remove the rubble from the WTC, ship it and bury it away so no one could ever investigate the evidence. Now lets say an unusual fire broke out in your parents house and it collapsed, would the cops take the remains and destroy them before any investigation? highly unlikely...
The controlled-demolition link is one of about a hundred smoking guns. I just wished Hunter would have finished it. You see if someone as popular as him said something the story would gain some ground. Right now opposers just say "Conspiracy theorist!".
If you were born and raised as like a Tampa Bay Buc fan for 20 years...theres no way you are going to change to a Radier fan. The same goes with Dems and Repubs...Once people stop caring and not be stubborn about their allience to these "teams" then we can get somewhere. Right now no one wants to admin they were "wrong" about being on the side of either team. People have to face that no matter what they are you are...the government has control over 95% of its residents because 95% of us are democrats and republicans.
But there really is no difference... |
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Jiyra
Chatterbox
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Posted - 03/04/2005 : 12:18:34 PM
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| makes me glad that I'm neither and both at the same time, but c'mon...do we really need to theorise about this stuff? I mean it happened, and people died needlessly, why would we do that?...unless we were in Iraq?...talk about people dying without any point...has anyone kept tabs on how many Iraqi National Forces have died? |
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Saint Jude
Alien Abductee
USA
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/04/2005 : 3:23:43 PM
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well who stood to gain...the millions made off the insider trading..its deeper...the state of fear and panic by the americans to accept anything in the name of "security", national id cards, face recognition software, cameras everywhere...
eventually its a much bigger picture...much like "1984" a constant contro0l grid, cashless society and a new world order...could go on for hours but im at work
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
4159 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 3:49:47 PM
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Rubylith, sorry but I still fail to see an "exposion" theory for the twin towers. The way the buildings fell were consistant with what would result in weakening the steel beams from the plane explosions. They had tried once before to bring down the towers using explosives to no avail. Actually it was from those hearings that the ideas of using large aircraft were born.
As for Saint Jude, interesting, but we've had 2 plane crashes in PA over the years, one of which was one of the planes on 9-11, that left no traces of anything after crashing.
Nice try with a conspiracy theory there too, except there was communication with passengers on that plane. If they are trying to say there was no plane, they are dead wrong. |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/04/2005 : 4:04:16 PM
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well...
I hate going into this so often...but here is what is fact...
within minutes they had a full explanation of what happened on all the channels...
steel melts at 2700 fahrenheit and jet fuel(which was burned up right away through the fireball that came fof the side of the building) burns at 1350 or so...
no steel building has EVER come down due to fire...
the building was made to withstand multiple aurcraft...
what about building 7, which had a few small fires...came down...the fire chief admitted it, and it takes DAYs to setup the explosvies...
bomb sniffing dogs being removed days before...
the building in madrid burned for something like 35 hours and it did not crumble into dust...
the larger pieces were broken into the exact same size...something controlled demolition proudly says it san do so that each piece can be lifted away in the size trucks you have...
i know its crazy..but theres more evidence i know of that appears toshow explosives, not even including the pentagon and PA flights...
the only evidence that the government story is right is, well wait ive never seen any evidence.. It was just pile drived down our throats for months....what did u do on september 11th...i bet it included watching a LOT of TV. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/04/2005 : 5:54:42 PM
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| And look how anybody can find out this information through the internet. So why would they kill just Hunter S. Thompson, when so many people have this info? |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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guitarisPIMP
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Niue
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Posted - 03/04/2005 : 6:30:25 PM
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| When you get the time, can you post this info on the 9-11 crash? It's fascinating stuff to read and I'd like to know more about it. |
my favorite color is go fuck yourself. :D |
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 1:46:43 PM
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Sorry, I can't help myself, I have to reply to this Rubylith. First don't confuse Melting with Weakening. Yes, steel may very well Melt at 27,000 degrees F. but no one said it melted. The heat from the fuel of the planes was enough to Weaken the structure. Remember too that steel is a wonderful conductor and the heat traveled downward.
These planes had nearly full fuel tanks. That is why they picked nonstop California flights.
Your theory is interesting but I still feel it is flawed beyond belief and I am someone who loves a good conspiracy theory. Personally I believe the Kennedy assassination was a conspiracy also the downed flight off the coast of Long Island. I believe a missile brought that jet down, no doubt in my mind. |
"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche |
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Jiyra
Chatterbox
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 8:33:57 PM
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| now I've got to ask, why do you think the plane was downed by a missile? and what would be the point? |
silly girl, sanity is for boys |
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guitarisPIMP
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 9:36:46 PM
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Originally posted by Jiyra
now I've got to ask, why do you think the plane was downed by a missile? and what would be the point?
For shits and giggles, perhaps? |
my favorite color is go fuck yourself. :D |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2005 : 11:30:29 PM
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| Nelson Demille the author, wrote a book called "Night Fall" which is about flight 800, which is a work of fiction, but is very interesting. You should check it out Pam as it has to do with conspiracy theories behind the crash. It may leave a little to be desired in terms of an ending, but it's interesting none the less. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2005 : 08:59:00 AM
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Jiyra, First I forget the flight number, was it flight 800 Arthen? Anyway, I was watching one of the continuous news channels the night of that crash. There a lot of people who saw it go down. Before they knew facts about the crash, the news teams began interviewing witnesses. ALL of them said they saw what looked like a missile go up and hit the plane. I listened to these people all night, over and over all said the same thing.
Later of course the explanation was that it was an illusion of the eye that the white trail going up to the plane was really one coming from the plane after the explosion.
Now I will tell you as concisely as I can about an experience I had which is why I believe the people over the so called experts.
Many years ago I went to my parents house in Lancaster because my mom was in the hospital. There was a bad storm. As soon as it passed dad and I headed to the hospital. As we turned down a road that would lead us to the highway we saw that there were police cars with lights flashing at the intersection. Believing it was an accident from the storm dad turned left on a side street. Just as he turned I saw a Buffalo, yes a buffalo, run across the street.
I yelled something dumb like " big, big, huge,......Buffalo! As soon as the words left my lips the foolishness of it came. We were in a housing development, a neighborhood, hardly the place to see a cow let alone a buffalo! We talked and laughed about it all the way to the hospital. My brother was there visiting mom and we laughed as we told them about it. We all decided that my eyes played tricks on me and I was left thinking I must have seen a very large dog!
Next morning on the front page of the paper, "Two Buffalo's escape the stock yard in Lancaster." I had indeed seen a buffalo.
My point is that while your eyes can play tricks on you as evident in those picture games we all played, one can also convince themselves that what they saw was NOT what they saw.
If one or two people said they thought they saw a missile hit the plane I would say, OK, they had an illusion. But throughout the night I heard people who were not together say over and over that they saw a missile.
The US military was conducting practice missile test in that area that day. My theory has always been that it was a mistake, that our own government shot down that plane by accident.
Oh, and if you think military accidents like that don't happen, ask the janitors at the New Jersey elementary school which was hit by a missile that was "accidentally" fired from a military jet! |
"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche |
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JoeGamo05
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Posted - 03/06/2005 : 10:10:46 AM
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| dangit' now i wanna read "fear and loathing in las vegas" had a discussion about mr. thompson in my history class, my teacher was telling me of a interview where her goes, "i only drink my scotish whiskey with ice cubes dipped in chloraform." lol awsome.... |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2005 : 3:25:36 PM
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Yeah, it was 800 Pam. The people described it as a "beam of light". The thing with the missle theory is countered that there was no residue found on the plane indicating that it had been hit by a missle.
That book was interesting and combined facts about the thing with a storyline really well. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2005 : 3:43:40 PM
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Arthen, thanks I will read that as soon as I finish the book I am currently reading called "The Bomb In My Garden" by Mahdi Obeidi. It is about Iraqs nuclear weapons program. I tried to read this several times but things have been so hectic that my schedule left me little time to read. This weekend I really got into it and it is an extremely interesting book. It gives great insight into the lives of the Iraqui people and what life was like under Sadam.
As for the missile residue from flight 800, that doesn't surprise me because if it was a cover up, they would have taken care of that and there are also missiles that don't leave residue. Call it gut instinct, I just think there was more to this than will ever be made public.
Did I mention how much I love a good conspiracy theory, hehehehe. I am enjoying this thread and everything everyone had contributed to it! What I wouldn't give to just sit down and have an all night bull shit session with all of you guys! Maybe some day we will have a board reunion at a Tim concert like we talked about years ago. |
"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!"Friedrich Nietzsche |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2005 : 5:09:28 PM
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| I definitely think there's a lot more to flight 800, too. A board concert/symposium would be infinitely excellent. A concert without the jerkoff people who yell out during the performance, is the ideal. We'll have to work out a way to make it happen. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Jiyra
Chatterbox
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Posted - 03/06/2005 : 6:07:50 PM
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| well it doesn't surprise me that our military can f*** something up like that, I was watching early the next day, so I didn't hear anything about the light, but if we really want to get into conspiracy theories, we can talk about Groom Lake having the longest airstrip in the world! But I think we should open another thread for that type of stuff |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 09:51:02 AM
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| Good, the last thing you guys should be talking about in Hunter's (may he rest in weirdness) memorial thread is the lying-ass government. AHAHAHA |
http://db.etree.org/hopefulrollingwaves/ < My Trading List |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
1916 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 10:24:44 AM
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| ok w3hat about building 7? |
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Evergreen
Yak Addict
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 11:39:39 AM
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History is hard to know, because of all the hired bullshit, but even without being sure of "history" it seems entirely reasonable to think that every now and then the energy of a whole generation comes to a head in a long fine flash, for reasons that nobody really understands at the time - and which never explain, in retrospect, what actually happened. -Raoul Duke
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 12:01:06 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
(may he rest in weirdness)
Did he rest any other way? |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 1:04:37 PM
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The article in Popular Mechanics turned out to be false, and written by Benjamin Chertoff.
But who is Benjamin Chertoff, the "senior researcher" at Popular Mechanics who is behind the article? American Free Press has learned that he is none other than a cousin of Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
Related:
Chertoff's Cousin Penned Popular Mechanics 9/11 Hit Piece
American Free Press | March 7, 2005
By Chistopher Bollyn
Dictators like Saddam Hussein have always used nepotism to protect their secrets and maintain control. Like a dictatorship, the inner cabal that directs the actions of the Bush administration uses the same tactics to confuse the public and conceal the truth of 9/11.
Dictators have always employed nepotism, the placing of family members in key positions, for one simple reason: only loyal family members can be trusted with the secrets that keep them in power. For this reason the shameless nepotism of the Bush administration should alarm Americans because it indicates that a dictatorship is encroaching upon the United States.
The Defense Department defines nepotism as the situation when relatives are in the same chain-of-command.
An egregious example of dictatorial-style nepotism occurred when George W. Bush won the White House ? twice ? thanks to the key "swing state" of Florida, where the presidential candidate's younger brother is governor. In 2000 and 2004, against all odds, Florida swung decisively, the Bush way.
With high federal offices being given to the wives, sons and daughters of senior members of the Bush administration, the Hearst Corporation executives that publish Popular Mechanics magazine probably didn't worry about the ethical considerations of hiring a cousin of Michael Chertoff, a former Assistant Attorney General and the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), as senior researcher.
But the March 2005 issue of Popular Mechanics (PM) plumbs new depths of nepotism and Hearst-style "yellow journalism" with its cover story about 9/11. PM's senior researcher, 25-year-old Benjamin Chertoff, authored a propagandistic cover story entitled "Debunking 9/11 Lies" which seeks to discredit all independent 9/11 research that challenges the official version of events.
"Conspiracy theories can't stand up to the hard facts," the cover reads. "After an in-depth investigation, PM answers with the truth," it says. But the article fails to provide evidence to support its claims and doesn't answer the key question: What caused the collapses of the twin towers and the 47-story World Trade Center 7?
The Chertoff article goes on to confront the "poisonous claims" of 16 "myths" spun by "extremist" 9/11 researchers like myself with "irrefutable facts," mostly provided by individuals in the employ of the U.S. government.
But who is Benjamin Chertoff, the "senior researcher" at Popular Mechanics who is behind the article? American Free Press has learned that he is none other than a cousin of Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
This means that Hearst paid Benjamin Chertoff to write an article supporting the seriously flawed explanation that is based on a practically non-existent investigation of the terror event that directly led to the creation of the massive national security department his "cousin" now heads. This is exactly the kind of "journalism" one would expect to find in a dictatorship like that of Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
Because the manager of public relations for Popular Mechanics didn't respond to repeated calls from American Free Press, I called Benjamin Chertoff, the magazine's "senior researcher," directly.
Chertoff said he was the "senior researcher" of the piece. When asked if he was related to Michael Chertoff, he said, "I don't know." Clearly uncomfortable about discussing the matter further, he told me that all questions about the article should be put to the publicist ? the one who never answers the phone.
Benjamin's mother in Pelham, New York, however, was more willing to talk. Asked if Benjamin was related to the new Secretary of Homeland Security, Judy said, "Yes, of course, he is a cousin."
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Evergreen
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 2:04:12 PM
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America... just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable. -Hunter S. Thompson
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Evergreen
Yak Addict
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 2:44:20 PM
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Myths and legends die hard in America. We love them for the extra dimension they provide, the illusion of near-infinite possibility to erase the narrow confines of most men's reality. Weird heroes and mould-breaking champions exist as living proof to those who need it that the tyranny of ''the rat race'' is not yet final.- Hunter S. Thompson
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Evergreen
Yak Addict
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Posted - 03/07/2005 : 2:46:00 PM
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Who does vote for these dishonest shit-heads? -Hunter S. Thompson
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PJK
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 05/29/2005 : 08:37:35 AM
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I was helping a student with research on this topic of a 9-11 conspiracy and oddly enough found an issue of Popular Mechanics, March issue 2005, that listed facts as to why there was no conspiracy.
(Gotta love teachers that assign a research paper at the end of the year, 9th grade!)
I really want to check it out one of these days as I didn't get a chance to read the article.
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 05/31/2005 : 09:22:44 AM
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look at who was the editor....
Benjamin CHertoff....cousin of Michael Chertoff the director of HOmeland Security....
its bullshit and they only focus on things that are really hard to believe like no plane at the pentagon...
why not things like marvin bush head of security, or hmmm NORAD standing down....or picture evidence of the explosives...
why not? because it wasn;t meant to do anything besides add more fog to the story and your average bumbling tv watching sheeple just say, "yea popular mecahnics debunked that" without knowing anything else... |
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guitarisPIMP
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Niue
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Posted - 05/31/2005 : 5:03:09 PM
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No one realizes how easy it is to publicly cover up a conspiracy, no matter how ridiculously large the holes in are in keeping the whole thing secure. All you need are a few agruments that you can stretch and make anyone with a gullible mind and an IQ lower than 100 believe. We have people building a museum supporting the Bible as solid scientific fact, and I guarantee you people will visit and they will be filthy fucking rich. If that's possible, then it's very possible to get something like all these conspiracy theories covered up.
Once an explanation or an idea is publicly accepted, any others one may present are laughed at, people are called radical quacks, and that's the end of whatever serious career they had.
If a bullshit arguement is enough, then so much for marvin bush, NORAD, and picture evidence. They don't stand a chance against millions of common opinions. |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 06/02/2005 : 09:05:38 AM
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yea its strange like before seeing or eharing evidence people are so quick to disagree instead of being open to being enlightened.
its not like this cant happen, look what Germany Did last century, it isnt far fetched at all...
i mean, it isn;t like our government has ever done anything shady before...hah |
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Fluffy
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 06/27/2005 : 3:36:52 PM
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Here's a great t-shirt for the HST fans out there. I wore mine for the first TIMe the other day and got more comments and requests for it than any other article of clothing I have ever put on my body. LOL
Here is a link if you want to check it out:
http://juanjohn.com/
It's the Hell's Angel t-shirt there on the opening page. Some of the other shirts on the site might be of particular interest to HTG or any other of our hispanic brothers or sisters on the board. |
Peace & Keep the Faith
Fluffy         
"THE MUSIC BUSINESS IS A CRUEL AND SHALLOW MONEY TRENCH-- A LONG PLASTIC HALLWAY WHERE THIEVES AND PIMPS RUN FREE AND GOOD MEN DIE LIKE DOGS. THERE'S ALSO A NEGATIVE SIDE..." -Hunter S. Thompson |
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westerly
Is Anybody Here?
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Posted - 07/20/2005 : 11:28:24 PM
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Originally posted by tericee
Thompson's family is looking into firing his ashes from a cannon, as he had wanted. "It's a realistic possibility," the son said.
Cool. There's a company in AZ that will do this ( http://goingoutwithabang.com ). Do it, record it, and make a web site. |
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