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peewee_zz
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 Posted - 03/07/2006 : 08:13:32 AM
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Tim Renolds supports Dennis Kucinich, therefore politics ARE TRelated topics. Therefore I make my humble suggestion:
For all of you wacked out moon bats and right wing hill billies, here' is your place to flame, rave and rant. I'm a very political person when it's in the right place and time. If you absolutely have to draw a direct connection between the Simpsons and "wire tapping" then please do it here.
For the sake of the rest of us (well me) that only want to talk about TR, Pie, and how good GuitarisPimp's version of Pink Panther is, then keep the politics in this thread only.
I'll get you started:
The recent pressure placed upon the apple pie industry by the rising popularity of cakes in the cheese variaty are significantly affecting the global economie's output of pies. For example the Dutch have increased their Apple pie exports headed towards America. This has interupted the Swiss trade with cheese pending a swiss boycott on apple pie ingredients. Despite all these factors the Pie-Mo-Nade business is booming because the demand is superseeding any affects on the costs. Pie-Mo-Nade plans to ride out this apple pie ingredients fiasco by maintaining their current asking price and taking a hit on their profits with plans to recover later. Coffee A-non has wighed into the issue by proposing a UN bill to increase funding to the Island of Java's Coffee Cake Revival program.
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/07/2006 : 10:54:54 AM
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huh?
I've had to talk enough about the current fall of America, it is depressing and I don't see that anything will change because the majority of Americans are fucking retarded and only care about beer, television, gadgets, cosmetics, sitcoms and sports.
Our government carried out the 9/11 attacks, that is a fact.
No matter how much mind control has dilluted the minds of those who will simply refuse to even hear that argument because they have been exposed to heavy brainwashing and do not read past a headline....the fact still remains. That building 7 was demolished, which takes WEEKS to prepare, and the leaseholder who won a record insurance settlement and admitted they "pulled building 7", Marvin Bush was on the board for the company that was in charge of security for the WTC, Dulles International, and United Airlines (can be found in Barbara Bush's own book)....not to mention these other mainstream articles that shed some light.
Since building 7 was demolished and can be proven NO DOUBT, everything else is in questions, like how two steel buildings came down at the speed of gravity, why the debris was melted down and buried overseas with no investigation by a company called "Controlled Dmeolition" who also cleaned up the Oklahoma City Bombing, to the corner at the Shanksville location saying " I stopped being corner after 10 minutes, I did not see a drop of blood anywhere, not one drop"...to Operation Northwoods, to the war game son that day.
Our country has been highjacked, not be muslim extremists, but by our own government, and they wish to seek, steal , control, and destroy you, I , and our families. |
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peewee_zz
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Posted - 03/07/2006 : 11:30:24 AM
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There's a brand new announcement from democracynow.org:
"Democracy Now! is 10 Years Old"
I'm glad that they finally came to that realization. I can't wait till
they hit puberty!
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/07/2006 : 11:33:22 AM
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So you think a celebration of radio's most factual reporting is in someway unwarranted?
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 03/07/2006 : 1:44:49 PM
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Originally posted by peewee_zz
For the sake of the rest of us that only want to talk about TR, Pie, and how good GuitarisPimp's version of Pink Panther is, then keep the politics in this thread only.
Sorry to say that even though I don't enjoy the political threads, this particular part of the TR board IS for non-TR topics, of which politics is a small segment. I don't enjoy the threads, so I don't read them. I suggest it might be worthwhile for you to do the same, unless you have a badge that says you run this place (that is, that your name is Fluffy or jsoldo). As far as I can tell, the guideline is set forth with the headings of the forums.
TRelated Topics
A great place to talk about anything Tim related
Friends Aboard the Space Pod
Great place to hangout and have some interesting? chats
Tablature / Guitar Setup
Find out anything about Tim's guitar setup and tablature
Taping / Trading
Arrange trades and ask concert taping related questions
Seems pretty straight forward to me.
I think this post might sound like I'm being mean. I'm not at all. At least not intending to be. |
Tim Reynolds Downloads
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peewee_zz
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Posted - 03/07/2006 : 2:31:53 PM
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I'm sorry, this thread is reserved for political debate.
Please make your comment in another thread.
I wanted to keep this short on that last line for the sake of a joke but I must explain myself.
This thread is meant as a suggestion. I have seen message board after message board die off after poltics were entered. Once the political spade is put out everyone jumps in.I'm just making a humble attempt at isolating it as to preserve the integrity of the other posts/posters.
Outside of this thread I'll treat Rubylith as normal. Inside of this thread he's a moonbat. (and inside this thread I'm a racist redneck with my very own outhouse)
If you create an edited version of the original topic then I'll edit it so that I don't sound like a moderator, but I didn't mean to give that impression. |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/07/2006 : 3:15:44 PM
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Im a moonbat and your rasisct?
wow....
Speak for yourself son, I rely only on facts, not rhetoric. |
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peewee_zz
Chatterbox
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Posted - 03/07/2006 : 3:32:33 PM
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Originally posted by rubylith
Im a moonbat and your rasisct?
wow....
Speak for yourself son, I rely only on facts, not rhetoric.
Rhetoric
Is that how you spell it because I use that word a lot and am terrible at spelling. |
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rubylith
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/07/2006 : 3:36:10 PM
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 03/07/2006 : 5:51:34 PM
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this where i think you have real problems. you haven't proved shit. that's the only fact here. not a goddamn thing. so take that shit about "facts" and put it aside. there are real questions that need answering, and you bring them up. but proof? not by a long shoot. you are brainwashed. period. you take everything on prisonplanet at face value the same way people who watch fox news do. you don't even see it, that's how thorough it is. you assume that if people don't agree with you, they're retarded and/or brainwashed. you think that because you're arrogant and elitist. did you even stop to think that maybe you're wrong? your not better than anyone. get off your goddamn high horse about how stupid america is already. america isn't the only country full of idiots. it's everywhere.
that being said, to say that the accusations of wiretapping is baseless is to look reality in the face and spit. directly into its eye. you said you're a republican, and i don't know if your the kind that thinks bush can do no wrong, but i'd be willing to bet that you are from that statement. if that's the case, you have a lot of waking up to do. |
death to false metal. |
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enthuTIMsiast
Alien Abductee
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Posted - 03/07/2006 : 10:40:44 PM
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Originally posted by peewee_zz
I'm sorry, this thread is reserved for political debate.
Please make your comment in another thread.
Yeah, this is the response I expected. Anyway, have fun doing what you do. |
Tim Reynolds Downloads
I am not the albatross of love, I am the human ellipsis. I am dot dot dot. - Leo Kottke
I hate beating people over the head with anything. We can all make up our own minds. What we don’t have is enough music. More music please. - Leo Kottke |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 03/08/2006 : 01:57:14 AM
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peewee, i gotta say this. i like you so far. but you really don't have any place telling people where to put their posts. i saw this in another topic, too. we're in the non-music section here, so conspiracy theories are fair game, as is any political statement in this section of the boards. so you might as well stop telling people where to post anything, because what are you going to do about it? not a damn thing. you have no authority here. you're not a mod. you haven't even been contributing for a month. so just relaxing the post policing business. we got fluffy for that, and he does a good job.
please, for the love of god. don't make me summon golden saint on you. |
death to false metal. |
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guitfiddler
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Posted - 03/08/2006 : 01:57:53 AM
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I have seen message board after message board die off after poltics were entered. Once the political spade is put out everyone jumps in.I'm just making a humble attempt at isolating it as to preserve the integrity of the other posts/posters.
I am but a virgin to the message board world. I saw a Tim show, loved it, and since I spend 10 hours a day at work in fromt of a computer, started posting. I was the one who brought up politics. My bad. Thank you for your correction. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/08/2006 : 02:39:27 AM
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| Politics comes up here and the board hasn't died. I don't think it's something one has to draw out like poison. If someone wants to talk about something, they'll bring it up. If no one has anything to say, it will die. Like Dubai. |
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Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/08/2006 : 09:58:00 AM
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hey Dan how do YOU explain the collapse of building 7 if it wasn't a controlled demolition?
And I enjoy reading prisonplanet once and a while, because I like their editorials the best. The editorials consist of 10% of what they post, the rest is all news from Reuters, Newsmax (conservative), AP, CNN, and many other sources.
As far as 9/11 goes, I hardly got any information from prisonplanet, as I was not made aware of prisonplanet until far after I "woke up".
What I do use as research is the video evidence, eyewitness accounts, news footage, history, companies involved, and who was involved (i.i Marvin Bush)....
Now you can shout and get all upset at me because you refuse to research building 7 yourself, and you hate PP because I said something that video games brainwash people, and that clearly makes you so upset, I guess because you love video games so much or something...I don't know.
Listen dude, this world is FUCKED, and our own government or criminal elements within our government carried out 9/11...
the only conspiracy theory is that 19 highjackers (who some are still alive http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm ) flew the planes without navigation into the most secure places in the united states (excluding Shanksville) and somehow they find 2 passports that flew out of the fire onto the ground...I mean come on.
Again for anyone who thinks it is to horrific to believe look up Operation Northwoods, or check out www.wtc7.net for videos and such.
If you think I am full of crap, then why not read something from these scholars, who I might add, are probably smarter than everyone on this thread combined, LOL.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/2/prweb343577.htm
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/
here is a member list for 9/11 Scholars for Truth
David Ray Griffin: Professor of philosophy of religion and theology, at the Claremont School of Theology
Morgan Reynolds (Reagan Administration): former Chief Economist for the United States Department of Labor, former Director of the Criminal Justice Center
Steven E. Jones: Professor of Physics, Brigham Young University, co-chair of S9/11T and the creator of its home page and its forum
Robert M. Bowman: Former Director of the U.S. Advanced Space Programs Development in the Carter and Ford administrations, former Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat missions.
Lloyd DeMause: Director of The Institute for Psychohistory
James H. Fetzer: Distinguished McKnight University Professor of Philosophy at the University of Minnesota, Duluth, author or editor of more than 20 books and co-chair of S9/11T
Andreas Von Buelow: former state-secretary in the German Defense Ministry, director of the German Secret Service, minister for research and technology, and member of Parliament for 25 years.
Wayne Madsen: investigative journalist, author, and syndicated columnist with articles in The Village Voice, CounterPunch, Online Journal, Wired, In These Times, Insider Magazine, and From The Wilderness.
John McMurtry: FRSC, moral philosopher and ethicist who works at the University of Guelph in Ontario, Canada.
Also check out Bin Laden's FBI profile, doesnt even mention 9/11 but it does say he is LEFT handed (however in the "confession" vudei he is holding a pen with his right hand...and he is wearing a GOLD WATCH which is forbidden by Islam) but who knows he IS a CIA agent.
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/terbinladen.htm |
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peewee_zz
Chatterbox
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Posted - 03/08/2006 : 11:21:12 AM
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Originally posted by dan p.
so you might as well stop telling people where to post anything, because what are you going to do about it? not a damn thing. you have no authority here. you're not a mod.
(breaking today's silence once more. I mean i spend one night with my kids and not on the computer and jeez :-P)
You better do what I say or else I'll cut off your big toe!
On this you can trust me.
From now on you will refer to me by the name Betty! |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2006 : 1:30:58 PM
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You might want to alter the thread again to include a correct spelling of "argument."
If there is one thing we can all admit here, it is that people are getting lazier and more afraid. This is WELL documented, especially in this country. Philosophy, art, 'political theory,' and even non-mainstream music are becoming "elitist." Why? Becuase people exclude themselves from it.
A good buddy of mine says ADBUSTERS is 'too deep' for him. I know Dan P. is not a fan of this publication, but it every month concentrates on different aspect of our quickly devolving society.
What is 'too deep'? A good understanding of the dynamics between the individual and the collective? The belief that no one should be murdered as means to an end? Actual conversation about what our duties as inhabitants of this planet are? I don't understand.
Like Rubylith, I believe the atrocities commited on our nation in 2001 were commited by those who have commited similar atrocities in countries all over the world over the last 240 years. Starting with the massacre of the North 'American' Natives. How would their news channel have covered 75% of their people being wiped out by superior weapons and primitive biological warfare? We can only begin to imagine.
Fuck politics. Politics is bullshit. Politics is what has ruined this planet and turned it into a beaureaucratic mish-mosh of corruption and greed. Politics is the art of lying to people about what is really going on, and I think we can all agree that we are bombarded by lies everyday, from ALL directions.
So let's forget about politics...let's ascend past them. Hopefully, to a place where the human and environmental condition are number one. The truth may hurt, but the ever-growing agony of lies is hurting us 100-fold. We need no longer argue about the state of humanity. Uncontrollable genocide in Sudan. Political coups in Hispanola. Power plays for oil in the Middle East. Ethnic murders in Chechnya...CHILDREN! Culmination of fear in our own country (we DO NOT teach tolerance here...ESPECIALLY IN OUR CHRUCHES!)
These things will lead any empathetic human being to realize that we are not going anywhere as a PEOPLE. Our country has gone out of its way to globalize everything...and we have suceeded in everything, except respecting our environment and respecting each other's LIVES. These 2 things should be the topic of converastion here. Try it out. See what happens. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2006 : 12:58:23 AM
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rubylith, i'm not saying the us government didn't do it for sure. i really don't think they did. once you get into motive, i think a lot of the argument breaks down. what i do think is the questions raised by you, regarding building 7, and really the whole fucking thing in general needs to be answered. you posted a list of things that argue for the government's involvment a while back. i like that list. it's clear, concise, and uses relatively neutral language. some of the things can be argued down, but not all of them. all i'm saying is it doesn't mean you've proved anything. and i really don't think your attitude towards people who disagree, stupid/brainwashed, whatever, is one that you should be taking. it's enough proof for you maybe, and that's ok. i guess. but you can't sit there and say how awake you are in comparision to everyone else who disagrees. it's really not fair. by the way, i'm going to try not to be so aggressive in my wording. i'm not going to presume to sit here and argue that these scholars you listed are wrong, because they have many degrees from good schools, and i'm a music major turned english major. i'd be going into a firefight with a knife and my fly wide open. but there are also similarly qualified people who disagree. so, where does that leave us? how do i explain the fall of building 7? i take the pragmatic approach and say "explosion and gravity." seems obvious enough. the people are dead, the building is gone, and someone somewhere did it. if anyone else wants to split hairs, fine, but all i ask for proof. imperical proof. truthfully, i'm more concerned with the consistancy and validity of people's arguments and opinions. the little things. of those aren't straight, what else matters?
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death to false metal. |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 10:36:53 AM
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Dan, the only insight I can try and provide is the speed of falling bodies at freefall. All of the WTC buildings fell at freefall speed, which means they didn't collapse in the the traditional sense of a building which falls under it's own weight...it would tumble, and provide friction...the buildings collapsing at freefall speed in physical terms would mean that the objects (pieces of the building) would have gone from an inertiatic standstill to a peaceful staight down drop. This doesn't make sense, it would take more than 11 seconds for a building of that maginitude to topple. The ONLY way that this could have happened is if charges had been placed at key structural parts of the building to blow it apart and thusly cause a freefall of materials.
Newton says the building got demolished, not conspirators.
Dan, what do you think about our country whoring out our largest sea ports to first the Chinese, and now the Saudis? Just curious. |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 10:41:46 AM
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not to mention you can see the blast points in every video from every angle...here's an example...
http://www.loosechange911.com/lc2e_herehere.wmv
not to mention there's about 20,000 videos being withheld of the collapses....the only videos that have come out are news videos and SOME personnel videos....most were sent in and never sent back, or confiscated.
Here's eyewitness accounts and news footage of multiple explosions:
http://www.loosechange911.com/lc2e_explosions.wmv
As far as motive...who stood the gain? The Arabs? Obviously not? What about our government, which has surpassed all spending, 2 wars (soon to be 3), patriot act, homeland security, and a police state....I'd say the motive is clear.
just like Hitler burned the Reichstag Building.
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peewee_zz
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 10:48:55 AM
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Actually I've found a scientific article that explains the way the building fell
Antigravity: The Feline Butterology Theory
This question was posed to the Usenet Oracle:
If you drop a buttered piece of bread, it will fall on the floor butter-side down. If a cat is dropped from a window or other high and towering place, it will land on its feet.
But what if you attach a buttered piece of bread, butter-side up to a cat's back and toss them both out the window? Will the cat land on its feet? Or will the butter splat on the ground?
And in response, thus spake the Oracle:
Even if you are too lazy to do the experiment yourself you should be able to deduce the obvious result. The laws of butterology demand that the butter must hit the ground, and the equally strict laws of feline aerodynamics demand that the cat can not smash its furry back. If the combined construct were to land, nature would have no way to resolve this paradox. Therefore it simply does not fall.
That's right, you clever mortal (well, as clever as a mortal can get), you have discovered the secret of antigravity! A buttered cat will, when released, quickly move to a height where the forces of cat-twisting and butter repulsion are in equilibrium. This equilibrium point can be modified by scraping off some of the butter, providing lift, or removing some of the cat's limbs, allowing descent.
Most of the civilized species of the Universe already use this principle to drive their ships while within a planetary system. The loud humming heard by most sighters of UFOs is, in fact, the purring of several hundred tabbies.
The one obvious danger is, of course, if the cats manage to eat the bread off their backs they will instantly plummet. Of course the cats will land on their feet, but this usually doesn't do them much good, since right after they make their graceful landing several tons of red-hot starship and cheesed-off aliens crash on top of them.
Source: http://paul.merton.ox.ac.uk/science/cats.html
As far as video's are concerned there was a weather station set up with a camera in one of the buildings. I want to see the video of the weather guy:
"We have clear skies it looks like, some couds and mayber a mixture of cold air with airplanes..headed right at us... AHH!!!"
Who woudn't want to see that video? |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 10:56:42 AM
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| ugh |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
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peewee_zz
Chatterbox
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 11:24:33 AM
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Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
As the member who started this thread, you should be the last person bringing humor to it. It's not funny.
That was kind of the point... I like to bring chaos into perspective. (which is one of the reasons I enjoyed the 2004 indipendant movie Dead Birds so much)
DANGIT WHY DID I HAVE TO BRING UP POLITICS?
Now I'm going to argue myself into the ground when I really wanted to talk about Pie and Ben's awesome Dreaming tree with dave pieced on top.
Newsflash: Fluffy really needs to consider limiting my use of the edit button |
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OnlySuperstition
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 1:29:54 PM
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I have to chime in on this. I like many others do not know a whole lot about politics but I have had some recent discoveries about our whole government issue. I have seen this loose change but only part one. I do know dave... rubylith and yes he may have somewhat brainwashed me but not really. I do think there is no possible way you can watch these documentaries and not draw gov't conclusions. There is just too much that doesnt make sense.
My question to you all is this.... explain to me why those facts are not true. explain the coincidences are just that and not clear paralells to our corrupt gov't. I dont know what the govt's motive is but i would like to find that out. Dave maybe you could explain that?
Again i don't see how you could do anything but draw gov't conspiracy conlcusions. Keep in mind i have no really knowledge or opinion on this. I wnet into this with an open mind. I left scared to open my front door. If someone wants to give some answers either way by all means do so.
P.S. please excuse and typo's or misspellings ( I can read just not type very well)
enjoy folks.
I thing unlike dave and others I am the best candidate on this discussion as I have no previous bias. You could say i might be a bit innocent... oops |
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peewee_zz
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 1:52:34 PM
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I've watched a very convincing documentary that Janet Reno murdered the people in Waco Texas. I read a very convincing article that shows Bill Clinton traded secrets to China. I've heard convincing statements that Saddam Huessein actually did have something to do with the Oklahoma City bombing. I've read a great article on how William Shakespeare was actually Sir Frances Bacon and then later found an even more convincing article that William Shakespeare was actually the queen.
As soon as you say the word conspiracy you need to take 2 things into consideration.
#1 the burden of proof is on the person stating the conspiracy. Meaning that unanswered questions are not facts. It's their responsibility to answer the questions, not yours to draw conclusions based on unfisnished journalism.
#2 Err on the side of non conspiracy. Give the more accepted view point the benifit of the doubt. You have to understand that not all conspiracies are true, in fact I personally beleive that most facets of government are too incompetent to create a conspiracy that lasts longer than 2 months. So if this conspiracy is true then chances are that aliens do not exists, vampires do not run a shadow government, AND FOR GOD'S SAKES WHEN THEY DROVE THE CHEVY TO THE LEVY THERE WAS NO FREAKING BOMBS IN IT.
Think of a court room. The conspiracy is the prosecution meaning that they have to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt. The mainstream side is the defendant. Unanswered questions are shadows of a doubt and prove only incompetance. Answer all of the questions and stop asking them.
I recieved a list of "oxy morons" (actually they were pardoxes) about things like "why do you call stands stands if you sit" and the answer is "It's short for grand stand which is a type of structure." Sometimes there are answers that are so simple that nobody wants to answer them. Rhetorical questions are not facts they are just dead ends. I could ask "why?" all day and produce the same affect.
I don't have the time to even research the conspiracy however because I don't want to get involved in this crap. Slashdot is the website that mostly ruined this kinf of stuff for me. Plus that complete waste of a human being that was arrested for hacking into a CIA terminal but they claim he was just downloading cell phone code. The real person, who dreadfully did get out of jail, spent his entire life trying to destroy society and documented it in a book he wrote while in prison. It's just a matter of time before he gets caught again doing something like trying to hack into a power plant.
When you scratch the surface most of this stuff is started by former members of Al Quida, or the KGB, or founders of the Socialist party and most often criminals. If you want to start asking meaningful questions trace this stuff back to the source a do background checks on the people starting the conspiracies. What do they have to gain from proving the conspiracy? Chances are they stand to gain more than what the people being accused of would have, which nobody here can even come up with an accusation for. |
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OnlySuperstition
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 2:07:22 PM
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| hey i'm at work and will read what you ahve written when i have enough time to give it its attention it deserves. unitl later |
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Arthen
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USA
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 2:15:16 PM
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Occam's Razor: one should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.
http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/OCCAMRAZ.html |
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Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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rubylith
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 2:24:36 PM
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Clinton DID sell secrets to China....that is well documented.
No one STARTED this conspiracy...millions of people are aksing these questions. I had questions that day...and I thought it was odd they have the names of all the highjackers along with the story the next day...and it never changed and they blocked an independent invetigation (the 9/11 comission was NOT an independent investigation)....
The video proof is clear, there needs to be a seirous investigation and rumsfeld, cheney, bush, franks, rove, clinton and the rest of the bloodsuckers should be questioned in a court of law. |
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OnlySuperstition
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 3:31:17 PM
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and why sell our secrets to the largest man powered man force army?
what proof is thier of that? |
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peewee_zz
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 4:48:49 PM
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Originally posted by OnlySuperstition
and why sell our secrets to the largest man powered man force army?
what proof is thier of that?
The story goes that the communist money was used as illegal campaign contributions for the 96 election. Many of the people involved were arrested but weren't really public knowledge until that giant group of pardons at the end of Clinton's term in which he pardoned most people involved, also with a suposed gun sale to drug trafficers. This also has ties with walls that were placed in the inteligence agencies to keep anyone from conducting an actual investigation on the compaign funds. Rumors are that this is the very reason that Able Danger was ignored before 9/11.
I don't know if i buy into the whole thing, but I'd love to have the kind of ammo against Clinton. |
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guitfiddler
Chatterbox
USA
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 8:30:21 PM
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| But why? What was the benefit? |
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peewee_zz
Chatterbox
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 10:55:51 PM
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Originally posted by guitfiddler
But why? What was the benefit?
To get re-elected is the story on this one. It doesn't sound like much, but being the President is a big big thing that somepeople would commit treason for I guess. |
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guitfiddler
Chatterbox
USA
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 11:20:29 PM
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| Those videos are convincing, but I'm not buying it. |
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CosmicHomesickAlien
Is Anybody Here?
USA
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Posted - 03/10/2006 : 12:34:42 PM
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First of all i would just like to ask, Who died and made peewee_zz the head honcho of the message board? I know that i'm new, but this is crazy you can't tell me where i'm supposed to post if i have something to say, be it about politics or my poop. You say you like to bring chaos into perspective, but there is no chaos to bring into perspective when you say post your political arguments here. You will definetaley create chaos, but it's so much more exciting when it just happens.
Now that i got that out even though i could probably keep going for quite some time, but i'm not that rude. I would have to agree that the U.S government is trying and almost succeeding in brainwashing all of america into thinking that the terrorists are out to get us. Unfortunetaley we cannot change what happened on 9/11 therefore i say we should get over it and do our best to get rid of the people who made it happen instead of complaining about it all the time. I completely agree with dave that our government made 9/11 happen and therefore i feel that we should and must do something to find this country new leaders, hopefully ones who are not so glutonous for power.
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peewee_zz
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Posted - 03/10/2006 : 12:44:45 PM
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Originally posted by CosmicHomesickAlien
First of all i would just like to ask, Who died and made peewee_zz the head honcho of the message board? I know that i'm new, but this is crazy you can't tell me where i'm supposed to post if i have something to say, be it about politics or my poop. You say you like to bring chaos into perspective, but there is no chaos to bring into perspective when you say post your political arguments here. You will definetaley create chaos, but it's so much more exciting when it just happens.
If you guys disagree with me making a seperate thread for politics then why are you posting in it?
And to answer a comment by Dan P. I don't feel that I'm contributing to the message board, more like making everyone's day a little longer one post at a time. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 03/10/2006 : 1:26:00 PM
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we post political things because that conversation is happening here right now. if someone decided to make a new political post, or change the subject here, then it will happen, irrespective of whatever you say.
i think you're giving yourself too much credit. do you honestly think people's days are being effected because if your conduct on this board? i can only speak for myself, but i'm pretty sure that no one here really gives that much of a fuck about you trying to be an asshole. really. no one cares. i told about how you have no authority and shouldn't be playing at post police because i figured, as a new poster, you many not understand that. of course, if you think you're important or effectual enough (note: you aren't) to frustrate anyone here, then that's your misconception. people like you come and go. they grow bored of people not caring about their lame attempts at getting people pissed off, or they get banned. although i have to say, your pseudo-philosophical reasoning behind being a jerk, with vague refereces to chaos, or liking caos, or whatever bullshit you're trotting out, is new.
also, rubylith? the hitler/nazi reference? classy. it's impossible to disagree with someone's opposing political views without calling them hitler. it has way too much merit and substance to pass up. |
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Kenneth
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Posted - 03/10/2006 : 1:39:17 PM
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Originally posted by dan p.
people like you come and go. they grow bored of people not caring about their lame attempts at getting people pissed off
Like HotKoreanGuy. I wonder where that dude went. |
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rubylith
Fluffy-Esque
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Posted - 03/10/2006 : 1:51:28 PM
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obviously I am not serious...
oh and Dan...I was comparing tactics not people... |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/10/2006 : 2:05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Kenneth
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Originally posted by dan p.
people like you come and go. they grow bored of people not caring about their lame attempts at getting people pissed off
Like HotKoreanGuy. I wonder where that dude went.
Unless PeeWee is the reincarnation of HotKoreanGuy!!! Perhaps he'll be lost in the mists of time... |
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peewee_zz
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Posted - 03/10/2006 : 2:50:39 PM
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Originally posted by Arthen
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Originally posted by Kenneth
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Originally posted by dan p.
people like you come and go. they grow bored of people not caring about their lame attempts at getting people pissed off
Like HotKoreanGuy. I wonder where that dude went.
Unless PeeWee is the reincarnation of HotKoreanGuy!!! Perhaps he'll be lost in the mists of time...
I'm not trying to just tick everyone else off. I post a lot, and I'm working on cutting that down. I think Fluffy should muzzle me for a day.
I have a lot of dry humor, have you read the initial post even? I don't think anyone here has since I edited it. Nobody's even brough the Piemonade contriversy up once since. It's like you people don't even care! Piemonade must be stopped!
(I'll give a cookie to anyone that figures out even 1 of my references that keep going unnoticed) |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
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Posted - 03/10/2006 : 8:50:39 PM
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piemonade is a homestarrunner reference. i love that damn site.
rubylith, i take back the comment. i thought you were comparing people. then i read it again, more slowly, as a child might who runs into a 3 syllable for the first time. provided that the government perpetrated 9/11 (not proven) then it's valid. also, that picture from maddox is great. i haven't read him in a whie. i remember laughing myself stupid. |
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
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Posted - 03/10/2006 : 9:38:51 PM
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| Maddox's pedophile quiz is hilarious, especially with the picture of Bolton in it. |
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