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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
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 Posted - 01/22/2009 : 09:39:23 AM
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Dan, that was a great post, I could've said it a only little better myself. 
Nick, don't be so fatuous. Society is making it increasingly difficult for women to find a comfortable role in framework of humanity. This is what Dan refers to. On a whole, there are more train wrecks than not. You admittedly don't get out much, so take our word for it. We're both glad you're friend isn't nutty as squirrel shit, but a lot of women our age are.
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 1:20:43 PM
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| i was taking a far more (what would be considered) misogynistic stance that what hrw said. for example, i was going to say women in their 20s and 30s are a trainwreck because of various societal pressures, but also for a variety of other reasons that would be insulting to point out. |
death to false metal. |
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Ranting Thespian
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2009 : 6:16:52 PM
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Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
. . . You admittedly don't get out much, so take our word for it . . .
Ok, I find THAT insulting!
Also, some are nutty and some aren't. I know plenty women who are not nutty. My friends Kari, Janell, Katie, and Alyssa. Don't fucking generalize because it does hurt. Not always to the ones you generalize about but also the ones that are close to them and love them. So fucking stop it! I can't be clearer enough, stop it! This is one line you don't want to cross with me.
Edit: I know this is harsh, but it is a big problem with me. I have been hurt many times by generalization as well as friends being hurt by generalization (weather it be about girls, boys, blacks, whites, gays, bi's, or straight people). This is a sensitive topic for me, so I ask for it to stop, please. |
Not communicating can hurt more than any word that can be said -
Nick
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2009 : 2:46:47 PM
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i find your rage interesting. let's examine it.
you find generalizations hurtful and offensive. that points to you being part of a group that is generalized against a lot, because people don't care about actions that don't hurt themselves directly. this thread rules out any sort of ethnic minority. which leaves creed and sexual orientation. you're a moderate liberal, judging from your posts and support of obama, and moderate in politics tend to be moderates in most things, religion included. so it's not likely you've been generalized about for a religious belief.
that leaves sexual orientation. you spoke briefly on this board a while back about being interested in a girl, so that rules out homosexuality. however, straights aren't really generalized about, and given the list of friends you have who are girls, i'm going to go out on a limb and say you're bisexual and your anger stems from the fact that people generalize about bisexuality because they don't believe it's a legitimate orientation or they don't understand it. |
death to false metal. |
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Ranting Thespian
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2009 : 04:30:21 AM
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Well dan, I am bi, but that has nothing to do with it. I don't ever really come across people who think bisexuality isn't a legitimate orientation.
How about generalization about men? I've been hurt many times being generalized as a stereotypical man. I have been excluded from things because I am a man. How about that? But you know what, that doesn't stem from where my anger comes from. It comes from fucking intolerance and generalization that hurts friends. Can I be angry at people because my friends are hurt? Hmmm? Ever thought of that dan?
Now stop it! |
Not communicating can hurt more than any word that can be said -
Nick
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2009 : 5:55:54 PM
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i haven't hurt any of your friends, and if they were as sane as you say the are, they wouldn't give a fuck if a stranger who is clearly an asshole called them a trainwreck on the internet.
but, you might have a point. let's use our friend logic to break this one down. i said "women in their 20s and 30s are trainwrecks." your mind said, "he calls women in their 20s and 30s trainwrecks. my female friends are in their 20s. therefore, he thinks my female friends are trainwrecks." sounds logical, and by that interpretation i have committed the logical fallacy known as destroying the exception, and should have used a qualifier such as "many" "most" or "nearly all." and maybe you're right. i certainly didn't mean to communicate that i don't mean every single 20-30 female is a trainwreck. i thought the recognition of rare exceptions was implied, because we're all basically grown-ups here.
the problem here is that we're going on experiences. your experiences tell you that at least your small handful of women are not, in fact, trainwrecks. my experiences, however, tell me that women in their 20s and 30s are mostly trainwrecks.
i amend my statement. most women in their 20s and 30s are trainwrecks, but not all. |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
2007 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2009 : 5:57:51 PM
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| I know a number of women in their 20's and 30's and most of them are, in fact, trainwrecks. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2009 : 6:03:23 PM
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| me too, guitarguy, but we have to remember that the plural of "anecdotal evidence" is not "data." i think you and i both know a number of 20something trainwrecks so that we have certain expectations of women that age we don't know. me, i just assume trainwreck until the girl is demonstrably not a trainwreck. the problem people run into with generalizations is not being able to let them go when dealing with a person who doesn't fit the generalization. |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
2007 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2009 : 9:04:03 PM
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| Well put. My wife is a 20-something and is not a trainwreck, but I think she's an exception to the rule. Even being married to her, I still concur that most 20-30 women are trainwrecks. I'm sure my wife would agree as well. |
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gnome44
Yak Addict
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Posted - 01/24/2009 : 10:07:58 PM
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Most people in their 20's and 30's are train wrecks.
Myself and my wife included!  |
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GuitarGuy305
Alien Abductee
USA
2007 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2009 : 01:00:58 AM
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Originally posted by gnome44
Most people in their 20's and 30's are train wrecks.
Myself and my wife included!
You bring up a good point. It all depends how you define train wreck. I think I'm a train wreck some times...not all the time but some times. Yeah, that definitely puts a whole new paint job on things. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2009 : 4:40:32 PM
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| i'm not a trainwreck, either. trainwrecks happen when you make stupid decisions in your life and don't handle problems neatly when they come up. or sometimes a ton of terrible things happen to a person. they're still a trainwreck, but it isn't really their fault. |
death to false metal. |
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gnome44
Yak Addict
749 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2009 : 8:35:02 PM
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You mean getting an interest-only-zero-down-ballooning-variable-rate-reverse-mortgage was a bad idea?
My drug dealer said it was a "can't lose situation."
I guess that dodging all of my child support payments would come back to haunt me when it dropped my credit score to 385.
That's why I started charging all of my bills and alcohol expenses to my credit cards.
Never mind that I got fired from my job for sexual harrassment.
(CHUGGA-CHUGGA-CHUGGA-CHUGGA-CHOOO-CHOOO! SMASH!)
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2009 : 11:16:50 PM
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| which brings me to my next point: there's a fine line between being a trainwreck and being manly as fuck. |
death to false metal. |
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AGirlNamedPsycho
Try A Little Harder
USA
70 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2009 : 02:50:55 AM
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This thread is a maaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing
wait wait lemme try -
I opened up for Tim Reynolds twice as a two-piece with my band Tsumi. The first time, 150 people were there. The second time, 124 people were there. Given the likelihood that the college crowd had gone home for the winter break and the price of gasoline was already way over 1.19, does this make my band -
a) Better than Trey Anastasio
b) Only slightly less popular than Clorox Bleach
c) an MS Paint drawing of a brontosaurus having breakfast |
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2009 : 10:11:33 AM
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d) a trainwreck.
The answer, clearly D. We can deduce a lot from your handle. AGirlNamedPsycho, I mean, c'mon, you handed it to us. You're just like all the other girls. AHAHA
Nick, your poo-pooing in here is ridiculous. Talk it out in group therapy. |
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dan p.
Alien Abductee
Uganda
3776 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2009 : 1:18:19 PM
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Originally posted by Hopeful Rolling Waves
Or
d) a trainwreck.
The answer, clearly D. We can deduce a lot from your handle. AGirlNamedPsycho, I mean, c'mon, you handed it to us. You're just like all the other girls. AHAHA
Nick, your poo-pooing in here is ridiculous. Talk it out in group therapy the bathroom.
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Arthen
Alien Abductee
USA
4845 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2009 : 5:45:43 PM
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Goddamn! You go out of town for a few days and an amazing thread only becomes funnier.
Dan, you are on fire with this thread. I have to agree with your statement, but I'd make for one alteration. Some may not be trainwrecks, but there's a penny on the tracks a little bit down the way. |
Steve Hackett: "I'm my own opening act, you see."
Tim (before "Faceoff"): "Peace, love....and SEX!"
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Ranting Thespian
Fluffy-Esque
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2009 : 02:50:08 AM
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Ok, HRW that really hurt and was uncalled for! I've been in a psych ward before, gone through therapy, and I suffer from mental illnesses. Your comment right there was so uncalled for and hurtful that I am seriously considering leaving these boards. I go through day in and day out with thoughts and problems in my head.
Weather you feel that my thoughts or feelings are stupid gives you no right to say that to me! HRW, you don't joke about that type of stuff, especially with people who have gone through that in their lives. |
Not communicating can hurt more than any word that can be said -
Nick
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Hopeful Rolling Waves
Alien Abductee
South Sandwich Islands
2154 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2009 : 10:44:33 AM
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You are putting yourself out here and having temper tantrums in a public venue. If you are too mentally fragile to get involved in arguments, then maybe you shouldn't be posting on a public forum about things of this nature. No reason to leave the board, but keep your injections to yourself when it comes to personal matters.
My father is a diagnosed schizophrenic. Don't think I don't know what a painful disease it can be. If you can't have a discussion without making bizarre online ultimatums, then maybe you should stick to TR Related topics. |
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lutherjm
Is Anybody Here?
USA
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Posted - 02/26/2009 : 10:43:20 AM
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| Wow it seems that yall took two amazing and unique guitarist and created this whole political debacle over it. Yall disgust me. Look, it seems to me that trey does sit more in for a song or two on the occasion which is because he has a very unique style and dave and his clash only in a certain way. Tim reynolds no offense to the dmb worshippers like myself sound has formed the dmb, he helped dave pick the members of his band and with the whole classical, rock, funk, deal. Tim and dave's playing just accent each other. But I'm sure with the talent that he has if trey were to go on for the full tour they were work at the songs and they would sound new and refurbished but different. Not necissarily in a good way or a bad way. just different. just as all music is not good or bad just different. tim and trey both in my opinion have insane amounts of knowledge in music and composing and it's just your opinion, but I can say that both having proven themselves of the years would do a tremendous job at acompaning the band on a tour. |
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lutherjm
Is Anybody Here?
USA
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Posted - 02/26/2009 : 10:45:41 AM
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| I guess you could say that if you like what you've been hearing and might just like a little change then go with tim, and if you'd like to see trey's style and dmb then choose trey's it wouldnt be bad but it would be very interesting. |
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jsemon2
Yak Addict
USA
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Andre_Brazil
Try A Little Harder
Brazil
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Here's a fun one from across the way....
